Cdnwilly; You see I have this wife, that REFUSES to drive a minivan. We have two young boys (1 and 2) and they will have freinds, so we will need more seats... The compermise a 9 passanger 'Mommy Misile' I couldn't beleive how hard it was to find one of these. But Finially did. It didn't have a motor, trannie, rearend, driveline, radiator, exhaust... when I drug it home.