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    ROFL... Just call me stubborn! But, I'll persevere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    ROFL... Just call me stubborn! But, I'll persevere!
    OK, but remember I'll be glad to help you out of your dilemma!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson View Post
    OK, but remember I'll be glad to help you out of your dilemma!!!!!
    I promise I won't forget!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    .....So after Roger gets me some measurements.. we'll order one in.. or maybe two... 8-)
    OK Mike, first I have apologize for the grunge & grime in these pictures, but the car's headed into the shop for some fiberglass work so I didn't take time to detail the engine As you can see, my installation is extremely constrained with the throttle body extension immediately above, and the water neck boss all but surrounding the distributor body. This Mallory Billet distributor was made special for Edelbrock to be as short as possible for vertical clearance, but also small diameter.

    Tucked in between the driver's side fuel rail and the water neck:
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    Water neck clearance is all but nothing:
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    Block boss beneath the hold down clamp to bottom of base is ~1.5" (very hard to measure with any accuracy):
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    Tucked under the Throttle Body Extension - Intake has to come off to pull the distributor, but with the cap & rotor pulled there is room to lift it enough to shift the drive gear on the cam gear:
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    The body is very nearly an exact 3.00 inches, not counting the mounting ears for the cap:
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    Hope these help. As I mentioned to you before, I really think you'd be better served by calling Mallory and talking to them about putting something together that may not be "standard". They might have a small diameter body like this one, but with a more "standard" shaft length to get it up above your restrictions. That would be my approach before I started buying and returning units with Summit.
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    Thank You for the pics / measures Roger! I' m thinking that the 1.5" from mount to bottom of body would be a killer! I believe my old mallory is 3" off the mount and it hits.

    I was browsing MSD last night and I like the looks of one and am waiting for an e-mail reply as we speak. We'll see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    Thank You for the pics / measures Roger! I' m thinking that the 1.5" from mount to bottom of body would be a killer! I believe my old mallory is 3" off the mount and it hits. I was browsing MSD last night and I like the looks of one and am waiting for an e-mail reply as we speak. We'll see what happens.
    Mike,
    I've said several times that the Mallory unit I'm running is a special build, commissioned by Edelbrock to get the lowest overall height they could get with a fully electronic distributor. I did not have any hope that this distributor would work for you, given the constraints. I knew it would be too short. Good luck on the hunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rspears View Post
    Mike, I did not have any hope that this distributor would work for you, given the constraints. I knew it would be too short. Good luck on the hunt.
    10-4, Roger that... to much stuff trying to occupy what's left of my little brain. I did "chat" with a guy and he said he ran one of these intakes with a stock ford unit "from the day".. so I've been looking at ebay also. Who knows how accurate this guy is.. But it could be a 40 or 50 dollar bet vs. a 300 or 400 dollar gamble.

    I found a dizzy at the MSD site that piques my interest, visually I think it might fit, and it has 11 choices of advance curves and it's all done digitally inside the dizzy - under the cap... so I'm window shopping?!?! Shoot me!

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    dizzy.jpg
    Maybe something like this, with a Pertronix kit? Rock Auto, 1965 Ford 289....
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    Exactly like that. My local supplier says it'll cost me 60 or 65 for a rebuilt. But if it don't fit.. I own it! What's that pic worth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    10-4, Roger that... to much stuff trying to occupy what's left of my little brain. I did "chat" with a guy and he said he ran one of these intakes with a stock ford unit "from the day".. so I've been looking at ebay also. Who knows how accurate this guy is.. But it could be a 40 or 50 dollar bet vs. a 300 or 400 dollar gamble.

    I found a dizzy at the MSD site that piques my interest, visually I think it might fit, and it has 11 choices of advance curves and it's all done digitally inside the dizzy - under the cap... so I'm window shopping?!?! Shoot me!
    Mike, I might still have an old 289 distributor laying around someplace on a shelf---perhaps the early one's were a bit different? Also, some place in one of the dark corners of my feeble brain I seem to remember an offset housing arrangement for a 289???? Not a clue who made it, or even what I might have seen it on. Are the MSD distributors for the crank trigger units a possibility????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson View Post
    Mike, I might still have an old 289 distributor laying around someplace on a shelf---perhaps the early one's were a bit different? Also, some place in one of the dark corners of my feeble brain I seem to remember an offset housing arrangement for a 289???? Not a clue who made it, or even what I might have seen it on. Are the MSD distributors for the crank trigger units a possibility????
    If you could scare up an old unit your willing to part with / or / let me test fit with it, that would be great!!!

    Offset won't work as there is a piece of the manifold that passes in front and encircles the dizzy.

    I started to go down the road of a crank trigger system, but that's a total re-work of more than a few pieces under the dash. It's possible but not desirable.
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    Mike, here's the link -http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/rafr...&parttype=7108 All but one have a $30 core charge built in, so they're not cheap.
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    As always, THANK YOU Roger! 8-)

    Maybe Dave will have an old one.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    As always, THANK YOU Roger! 8-)

    Maybe Dave will have an old one.....
    Mike, I have the old stock one from my '69 302. I haven't decided if I'm going to add a pertronix and use it or get an MSD when the time comes. If you want, I could send it to you for a test fit. Let me know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by randyr View Post
    Mike, I have the old stock one from my '69 302. I haven't decided if I'm going to add a pertronix and use it or get an MSD when the time comes. If you want, I could send it to you for a test fit. Let me know...
    Heck YES! It would answer a few questions for me!! I'll drop you a PM. TIA.
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