Thread: 302 wont fire PLZ HELP

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ive seem to mislead you guys...the solenoid is not in the starter

the one circled on the far left is the starter solenoid, Its not mine, I just pulled a picture up from the net. And unless its a chevy powered ford the solenoid is on the right fender inner skirt.

thanks for the pic but how am i supposed to tell the difference between the + and the - on the solenoid?{my solenoid is is on the right next to my transmission,cant really tell}

thanks for the pic but how am i supposed to tell the difference between the + and the - on the solenoid?{my solenoid is is on the right next to my transmission,cant really tell}

Be real careful of what starter and off starter solenoid set up that you have. The new starters have the solenoid built into the can on top of the starter with the one on the firewall being merely a relay for the start signal - and I don't have a clue when these were installed - mid '90s maybe. With the new setup you have 2 heavy wires on one terminal with a lighter one running to the starter - there being 2 wires rather then a single heavy one like the older Fords.

This is what I mean. The sketch on this page is NOT the solenoid I'm using - I'm using the older style, with some mods to my wiring

Now you got me confused. What does this problem have to do with the starter solenoid?

Maybe I misread this thread, but here are the symptoms as I understand them:

• The engine cranks; but no smoke,cough or backfire.
• There is no power to the coil.

Unless you're looking to replace a blown fuse-link, there is no reason to even look at the starter solenoid.

Originally Posted by Joe G

Now you got me confused. What does this problem have to do with the starter solenoid?

Maybe I misread this thread, but here are the symptoms as I understand them:

• The engine cranks; but no smoke,cough or backfire.
• There is no power to the coil.

Unless you're looking to replace a blown fuse-link, there is no reason to even look at the starter solenoid.

Yeah, it's a little confusing. Someone else put this thing together evidently, and wires are hanging loose all over. He has no juice to the coil, and Fords pickup the ignition voltage from the second small terminal on the solenoid generally. That is how the solenoid came into this. We are trying to get him to start at ground zero and see where he is not connected.

Don

Oh. Thanks for clearing that up.

I always thought that the connection from the solenoid to the coil was only hot while cranking - to bypass the resistor and give the coil a full 12v and thus a hotter spark during startup. I have certainly been wrong before. Guess I'll just watch this thread and see if I can't learn something rather than speaking out of school.

Thanks.