Hey guys don't fight over this thread, I'm just new to all this and I have noted everything everybody has told me and I ain't gonna say something like I know its the rocker arms that flattened the cam I ain't gonna say that I knew the perfect ignition timing I ran 14 degrees and that probably wasn't perfect, I say I think on stuff because its truth I'm not as expereicned as all of yall but thanks for all the help though