the day after we posted the question our son rolled the truck
(btw it is a '02 not a '92)
big snow storm and plenty of ice on the road + too fast for the conditions
big fat tires plowing ---tight corner--- spun it around and went into the ditch backwards and flopped on its roof--a farmer came by with a dump truck and helped flip it back on its wheels
it will buff out-ha



from a clean truck into a beater work truck in one hard learned lesson
he is OK but with a bruised EGO

hank