John--Could be there's something I'm missing with these steel prices. I know that if you or I go to buy steel at a steelyard, it's gone up by the amount that I mentioned earlier. Now selling scrap steel could well be a different thing. I don't believe that I have ever sold any steel to a wrecker. I just call them up and give them anything I want to get rid of, and up untill now anyways, they have always come and got it and dragged it away. As far as living in the land of milk and honey, this February when its 30 below farenheit with 4 foot of snow here in Barrie Onterio, Canada, I'd gladly trade you about 100 square miles of Ontario real estate for a half acre in Arizona.