Thread: I found what blew in my engine!
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12-26-2010 03:48 AM #1
Don thats bloody bad news and bad luck mate, I hope you get it all sorted.Its aweful lonesome in the saddle since my horse died.
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12-26-2010 04:49 AM #2
That sucks big time. A friend who owned an engine shop had his daughter's Trans Am in the shop, it seized at a traffic light. They had the engine ready to pull, and he was carrying the alternator over to the parts pile when he noticed the pulley wouldn't turn! He hollered "Whoa!" and tried turning the crankshaft. It was free! The serpentine belt stopped the engine cold. At least they hadn't got the engine out yet.
I'd try a pump by another supplier. Was yours made overseas, by any chance? China, Taiwan, the Phillipines, Korea, all crap. A rebuilt American pump is far better than a new one from those clowns.Or even a good used one!
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12-26-2010 05:13 AM #3
I have to say, all my dealings with Summit have been first rate. They do what they promise and if something happens they do their best to make it right. Example was when my Son Don's TCI transmission blew a torque convertor after only a few miles. TCI told us to send the transmission and convertor back to them (the transmision got wiped out too) and for us to pay the shipping. ($ 125 each way) We dd, and TCI found the front pump had gone bad and wiped out everything. They redid the transmission and put a new torque convertor with it and made us pay the shipping BACK. I complained to Summit and they kicked in $ 75 to help with the freight.
I'm not looking for total reimbursement on this water pump failure, but it will end up costing me a lot of time and money when all is said and done. I need not only a new water pump, but also a complete engine gasket set to put the motor back togther, oil, transmission grease, etc. Mainly, I just want a pump that I can trust.
I spoke to the Ford Racing Rep at Turkey Run, and he says they build this pump special. They machine the nose off of some other racing pump they offer, shorten the parts up, and reassemble it. Whoever they are using to do the pumps is screwing up. The pump that blew up in my face (literally) did not have the two shallow bolts torqued down from the factory, which is why the inside gasket blew out, and probably why my first pump failed.
Don
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12-26-2010 05:30 AM #4
As a side note, the reason I am running this short Ford Racing pump is for the extra 1.5 inches of clearance it gives me at the radiator. I spent a lot of money (about $ 1000 total) to get all the parts needed to use this pump. (Timing cover, pump, pulleys, and Ford Racing harmonic balancer, plus machining to make pulleys fit) However, I know that Snow White Ltd makes a setup that cuts 2 inches off a sbf. I think it uses an Opel water pump or something like that. Does anyone have any experience with this one? I might consider switching.
Here is a picture of that setup.
Don
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12-26-2010 05:44 AM #5
Don - I'm using a pump from these guys. Not sure which version you are using as far as length and rotation, but they might have one that works
http://www.stewartcomponents.net/Mer...ode=FordHIFlWPDave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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12-26-2010 06:11 AM #6
Dave, those look good, but I think they are standard length. I need as much room as possible, which is why I bit the bullet and bought the shorty one from Ford. Ford offers two versions, a serpentine one and a V belt one (different directions) I am using the V belt version.
Don
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12-26-2010 06:40 AM #7
Ok, I just got off the phone with Summit..........I couldn't wait until Monday.They are sending me a new pump and selling me a gasket set at cost. They will issue a ups pickup for the defective pump. They say Ford Racing has NO warranty on this stuff........isn't THAT special.
When I get the new pump I am going to pull the back cover off and try to determine how good the welds are, and then goop the heck out of the gasket, torque those two little bolts at the bottom, and button my engine back up.
Fishing is looking better all the time.
Don
Dammit, another good ol boy gone. Condolence to the family. RIP Mike
RIP Mike Frade, aka 34_40