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    Here's a handy-dandy formula for sizing carbs - plagerized by me from other sources:
    "One general rule of thumb uses a formula to determine the CFM requirements of your engine. It goes like this: You need to know the CUBIC INCHES of the motor. You also need the maximum RPMs the motor will be spun to. Finally you also need the VOLUMETRIC EFFICIENCY PERCENTAGE (VE%) of the engine. The first two items (CUBIC INCHES and RPMs), are relatively easy to determine. The engine VE% is another matter. If an engine could use all of the air it ingested, it would have a VE% of 100%. Many performance engines reach this level. Certain race engines can actually exceed this and reach a VE% of over 100% at certain points in their RPM range. Most production engines and most street performance engines have VE levels below 100%. In fact, stock, production, low performance motors will fall around 75%-85% volumetric efficiency. "

    The math formula is:

    CARB CFM = CID x RPM/3456 x VE

    Therefore: 331x6000/3456 x .90 = 517CFM (or rounded up, a 550/600)

    The 3456 is a constant - but darned if I know from where
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    The 3456 is a constant - but darned if I know from where
    Man I had to think about that one for a while.

    one cubic foot = 12x12x12 = 1728 cubic inches per cubic foot.

    One would think that is the conversion factor needed but -

    At any given rpm only 1/2 the displacement is actually intake flow.
    so you have to divide the total flow by 2 before converting CIM to CFM.

    therefore -

    CIDxRPM/(12x12x12)2 = CIDxRPM/3456
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irelands child
    Here's a handy-dandy formula for sizing carbs - plagerized by me from other sources:
    "One general rule of thumb uses a formula to determine the CFM requirements of your engine. It goes like this: You need to know the CUBIC INCHES of the motor. You also need the maximum RPMs the motor will be spun to. Finally you also need the VOLUMETRIC EFFICIENCY PERCENTAGE (VE%) of the engine. The first two items (CUBIC INCHES and RPMs), are relatively easy to determine. The engine VE% is another matter. If an engine could use all of the air it ingested, it would have a VE% of 100%. Many performance engines reach this level. Certain race engines can actually exceed this and reach a VE% of over 100% at certain points in their RPM range. Most production engines and most street performance engines have VE levels below 100%. In fact, stock, production, low performance motors will fall around 75%-85% volumetric efficiency. "

    The math formula is:

    CARB CFM = CID x RPM/3456 x VE

    Therefore: 331x6000/3456 x .90 = 517CFM (or rounded up, a 550/600)

    The 3456 is a constant - but darned if I know from where
    Ding,ding,ding we have a winner.
    In other words a 500 cfm carb will work great.

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    My opinion (humble as it is ) would say that a 1406 Edelbrock 600cfm electric choke with tuning kit work would be optimum with a 500cfm part 1403 or 4 as a good second choice for all around driving. When I recall that my old F350/460CID had an approximate 500 cfm Holley on it, ran pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DennyW
    Yes, the 500 will work fine, but, he hasn't commented on what he really plans, or how he wants to drive it. With not knowing, I figure it as what if ?

    Vacuum secondaries, and that 4 barrel will still be very good, unless he puts his foot in it. I wouldn't want to see him go lean on the top end. I'm just talking ingeneral here guys. I like to make sure I have that extra punch if I need it. I run a little 390 cfm on my 2.8. Get good mileage, but have the punch when I need it. And the engine can only draw so much depending on cubic inches anyway.
    Denny,he won't go lean he will tend to go rich or the engine will go flat on hp and torque and fall off if it runs out of air.

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