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    Like Dave says, check for the simple things first. Here is another handy hint, pull the cap off the distributor and check your centrifugal advance is operating smoothly. Just grab the rotor (with the ignition off ! of corse) and advance it, it should snab back, if there is any resistance, find out why. It's just one of those sneeky distributor problems that drives peolple bananas.Hope this helps.
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    Sounds like the timing chain jumped. Line up the timing marks, and see if the valves on no.1 (or no.6, depending) are right on split overlap, exhaust just closing and intake just opening. If not, its out a tooth . A new roller chain and sprockets will fix it.

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    OK, first off, thanks again to all. I think I have solved the problem. A few of you insisted on compression test. Did it today and all seven cylinders came up with about 124-128. The last cylinder on the passenger side closest to the firewall (of course) Was 0. Yes, 0. Pulled the valve covers again to check. Pulled the rod, rolled it on the table, and yes, there was an ever so slight almost hard to see bend. Still, I thought it cant be enough. Went back out, put it in, put the rocker on and started to tighten. I realized that soon, the nut was down further than the rest and the rocker still had play. Lo and be hold, the spring was busted, broke in three places. I've never seen that, or it's never happend to me anyway. Went to the store and got a hose to hold pressure on the vave, filled it to about 100 psi and removed the spring. Putting in a new set, and pushrods too.

    Now here's the scary part. There does seem to be a few small or a couple small pieces missing. So, where are they? In my oil pan I hope? Am I ok?
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    By the way, thanks to "thesals". My neighbor also mentioned the possibility of the studs pulling out. He's seen it before. Thats what we actually thought was happening as I was tightening it back up until I noticed the busted spring! You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Phil...
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    Bent pushrods and broken valve springs, fairly common on high revving small blocks with stock springs and stock pushrods and a stout cam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DennyW
    You mean the sixth post didn't hit the nail any at all. I'm taking your hammer away for that one.
    Sixth post, How about the 5th one?

    Glad you got it figured out, hopefully the missing pieces are in the oil pan. Might be worth investing in a magnetic oil pan plug.

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    Apologies to Denny & Stucool, when I look at all these posts, by the time I write the reply I forget the names! Cant read without glasses either anymore! At only 45 I thought these things didnt happen till 60!!!
    But what about those broken pieces??? Is this a problem? Where are they???
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    Hey no offense taken nor apologies necessary. Was just a lucky guess on my part anyway. The stray pieces probably are in the pan. There is an oil return hole right at the back of the head there so that is a likely route for them to take. Probably a good idea to change your oil, and pick up one of those drain plugs with a magnet in it. That will catch any stray pieces left hanging around in there. The oil pick up has a screen and anything smaller than that the filter should pick up. While you were replacing the spring, did you work the valve up and down and spin it to make sure it was not bent? I would also suggest another compression test now that you have it all back together to make sure that valve is sealing.

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