Thread: Pro Stock??

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Originally Posted by jerry clayton

Hummmmmm--Varible cam timing----I remember doing that in 1968!!!!!!!

HMMM i have a 427 like that... guy just will not start with a better block

I just looked through that article again......nothing revolutionary there. Lots of money spent on pieces and R&D. Cryogenics and heat treating certainly aren't anything new. Big valves and small chambers?? Pat and Jerry have been preaching that to us on CHR for years!!!!! Granted, some very good minds wrenching on Pro Stock engines, but the same is true in all top level motorsports competition.

As Jerry makes apparent with variable cam timing back in '68, nothing is really new....just refinements and tweaking pieces to the absolute max. \

Guess I just don't see anything in Pro Stock engines that is ultra trick or brand new technology.....What I do see is dedicated engine builders with huge budgets that will spend countless hours in the dyno room searching for a few more ponies....

Dave.Just to the sake of talking points.

We talk about in some classes how we miss old time racing.

Then here we talk about not enough changes.Yet even through it is founded on same designs,I am convinced that the current engine is so far removed from the common engines found.

The article covered three different type engine manufactures.
So it isn't being limited to just one brand.

When we talk about classes like top fuel where it is too far advanced.

I just don't know what to say after this Dave.

Jerry-I am truly sorry about the off topic post bud.

Gotta watch tonight---according to results there were only 2 or 3 races in eack catergory---

New ET records in Top Fuel and Pro Stock on Sunday, that cool weather sure does make some power---(and give the clutch man nightmares!!)

Just looking at the NHRA site....With Lines winning at Reading, he's dang near got the Pro Stock championship locked up!!!! Mathematically, others could still win but in reality someone would have to figure out a way to slow down those two Sumitt cars!!!!!

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Just looking at the NHRA site....With Lines winning at Reading, he's dang near got the Pro Stock championship locked up!!!! Mathematically, others could still win but in reality someone would have to figure out a way to slow down those two Sumitt cars!!!!!

It's interesting (to me anyway) that the sanctioning bodies continually come up with a points system that tries to force the points totaling to become a lot closer at years end and then with 3 races left to run, Mr. Line looks like a runaway!

There is an old adage in there somewhere.. but I ain't gonna say it!

Both of the Sumitt cars are crankin' the numbers everywhere they run, but Lines is having an Anderson year this year!!!!

if i ammember correctly jason was an engine builder before he became a driver .. may not be sharing all he knows with the boss ..

Well, they're crew chief on each other's car, so probably not a lot of info being kept secret as Anderson does the tune up on Lines car and vice versa!!!!!

Well, once again----11 of 16 qualifiers Pontiacs!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by jerry clayton

Well, once again----11 of 16 qualifiers Pontiacs!!!!!!!

Well Jerry here is my answer.You have a pedigree in your history.Start building Pro Stock lease engines to beat up those Pontaics and lease them out going on tour to do the tune-ups yourself.The first one is the hardest and after getting income from that,the rest aren't as expensive.

I'm just talking about the premeir stock class being filled with a make that is discontinued!!!!!Make them run a Chev or Buick----

Jerry-I said before that would wipe out a cottage business in leasing that has alot of money changing hands.

You know there is always IHRA if anyone is unhappy with NHRA.

I understand exactly what your saying.The business of drag racing is supported by the racers and that isn't just at the local race tracks.Both of us have looked into the stands and realized that fact.The fan base has faded.So I think NHRA has to be very careful not to make major financial decisions that effect the business's behind the scenes.

It's not a conspiracy Gary, it's just the Aero is better on the Pontiac body. Rules say the body can only be a 5 year old design so the Pontiac body will die a natural death... Of course being a Pontiac fan from way back (I still drive a Bonneville), I betcha the guys at GM gotta wonder sometimes if they didn't cancel the wrong nameplate!!!!!

As for leased engines, it's become very common throughout many forms of Motorsports....Much cheaper then having to have your own full time engine shop with all the personnel and equipment that's necessary to be competitive!