Thread: I miss real drag racing
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	05-03-2010 07:03 PM #1
 just like nascar drag racing has sold out to big business.the tuners rely on there computers to set up there cars.bring back the old days,i'm tired of seeing hemis,sbc in everything.my street rod i.m building has a 304.5 cubic studebaker v-8 r-4 spec.engine with 2x4.it may not beat anything but i will get more questions than any one at an auto show.
 
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	05-03-2010 08:20 PM #2
 Yep. Seems like no matter what type of racing it is, big money always ends up ruining it... 
 
 My favorite era in drag racing was the '60s. I was too young and broke to be anything more than a spectator, but I loved the Gassers, Altereds, and Street Roadsters. I went to my first US Nationals in 1961, the first year they ran at Indy. I was 13 years old and borrowed my sister's Brownie camera. I still have those black & white pictures... When I got my driver's license I became a regular Sunday spectator at IRP (Indy). Those were good times. I particularly liked the C and D Gas and Altered classes; that's where the ingenuity was. In those classes, the little guys still had a chance. I thought the altered wheelbase cars were cool, too. The supercharged cars were fun to watch, but they were more a contest of money. When the Gas classes started running Mustang and Camaro bodies, I quit going. The supercharged cars were fun to watch, but they were more a contest of money. When the Gas classes started running Mustang and Camaro bodies, I quit going. 
 
 Modern drag racing, to me, is boring. The fuel and pro classes are just a contest of money. Four-wide racing at 300 mph is stupidly dangerous. The brackets were introduced to try to offset the cost for the little guys. Unfortunately, even the brackets have been ruined by money. You want to be competitive now? You need a trans-brake, a stutter box, a delay box, and a two-stage throttle stop. If you add radio control steering the driver will be unnecessary... 
 
 The nostalgia races are definitely a step in the right direction. By the way, what does HA/GR stand for?Jim 
 
 Racing! - Because football, basketball, baseball, and golf require only ONE BALL!
 
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	05-05-2010 07:56 PM #3
 HA/GR stands for HAMB gas Rail. And heres what they had to say about it.
 
 The H.A.M.B. Gas Rail (HA/GR) class is essentially just a group of pals with a passion for keeping the early days and scenes of drags racing alive. It's not a competitive class per se, but a class based on the egoless, the passionate... It just might be something you have to see for yourself before ya get it.
 
 A kiwi mate, now living in Australia built one. They dont seem to run much faster than 13s there, but everyones having fun. Google ha/gr and have a look.
 
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	05-05-2010 08:01 PM #4
 
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	05-03-2010 08:26 PM #5
 I don't much care for the national events anymore, other then of course watching the top fuel cars!!!! As a racer, we have a blast on our local track!!! Still very competitive, but it's good to hang out with the same guys and race! I've ran brackets and the Super classes, all are fun and you better have your stuff together if you wanna go rounds! The Divisional meets are still kewl to attend, even better when you participate.
 
 As others have mentioned, if it were still run what ya brung and hope you brung enough the average guy couldn't afford to be competitive!!! Going to do a few more Nostalgia events this year, but it's certainly not a cheap form of racing! If you like racing but get bored watching the bracket cars try getting involved!!! The boredom goes away when you're the guy watching the weather, checking out the track, keeping up with the tuneup on the car, and still trying to run on your dial-in with a 00 light!!!!
 
 PS--most all the tracks around here run a non-electronics bracket, too!!! Or, like some of us, if you really want to test your abilities---run brackets with a five speed!!!
 
 or, don't knock it if you haven't tried it!!!Last edited by Dave Severson; 05-03-2010 at 08:29 PM. Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today! 
 Carroll Shelby
 
 Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!! 
 
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	05-03-2010 09:46 PM #6
 skip the national events hit a divisional most fun i ever had!
 
 everything but top fuel/pro stock.
 
 top alkies, more exciting than fuel lots more squirrly plus they shift twice!
 comp!!!!!! nothing beats this class for a show period.
 super stock you gotta lova wheels danglin while grabbin gears
 stock , still love watching station wagons poppin wheelies!
 top dragster lots of innovation still going on in this class.
 top sportsman, pro mod basically. still cool
 
 super gas and super comp is really close racing, but the throttle stop thing gets boring fast. but still probably the closest classes et/package wise youll watch.
 
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	05-03-2010 10:50 PM #7
 
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	05-04-2010 08:24 AM #8
 
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	05-07-2010 06:51 PM #10
 I think you guys would enjoy attending a pinks all out event. Not quite old school dragsters but alot of stuff from the 50's up really tearing it up running real times and mostly street legal. Usually at intermission they will bring out some old drag cars and run them to like are pictured. Personally im going to make it a habit of attending at least one every year.
 
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	05-07-2010 07:20 PM #11
 Fuel Altereds in Tucson in four weeks! :-)~
 
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	05-07-2010 10:05 PM #12
 Pinks might be good for a spectator... But as a racer, you go and make 3 time trials then sit around and hope your time is in the group selected--then only the winner gets any payout... Oh yeah, "hot lapping" my drag car has never been one of my favorite things to do...
 
 At least at the old home track, I know I'm going to be in eliminations and have a chance to get some of the payout---and I don't have to watch Rich the idiot do his armdrop thing when there's a perfectly good tree sitting there unused!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today! 
 Carroll Shelby
 
 Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!! 
 
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	05-07-2010 11:04 PM #13
 
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	05-08-2010 09:39 AM #14
 The arm drop---I remember studying the flagmans actions to know when to leave---Old big bicep Rich has a dead give away that would give me a 1/2 second on any of those guys and all the replays they would want to play would show me legal---
 
 There is always something that gives away the move
 
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	05-09-2010 07:09 AM #15
 At NE Dragway in Sanford, ME (1960ish) the flagman always kinked his knees just a fraction before he threw the flag, an easy 1/2 a car length.
 
 Back then I was racing a 348 tripower 60 Biscayne with a 4 speed and 4:11's.
 
 Drive it to the track, thrash all day, maybe be lucky enough to win the $2.00 trophy, and then drive it home.
 
 Those were the "good ol days"!!Buying parts I don't need, with money I don't have, to impress people I don't like  
 






 
		
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