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    i`m anti gm in any motor sport .. the only thing that perks any interest in pro stock drag racing is what little success dodge has now and then.. now ihra is a dif matter but it`s never on the tube .. ahhh .. the bob glidden era .. perhaps a spending cap on teams .. 3 million per year -per team ..
    iv`e used up all my sick days at work .. can i call in dead ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOSS429
    perhaps a spending cap on teams .. 3 million per year -per team ..
    I can't agree with you there Hoss, the classes are called PRO for a reason. They are the top of the heap. One of the great things about drag racing is there are levels you can be competitive in at any budget level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry clayton
    Well. exciting as I thought it was, I don't like it---but I'm probably looking at it differently than most of you---as a car owner, I didn't like the drivers getting the points--In 1970 we had three different drivers--Norm Wilcox, Steve Carbonne, and Rick Ramsey--we didn't have enough points to get into the Supernationals at Ontario,.Ca----Steve Gibbs got us in as a fill in for some east coast car( Field was to be east/west) but Bernie Partridge wouldn't let us in as he wanted all full bodied cars!!!(we got best appearing car at the race)

    In a later year, NHRA and AHRA had there World Finals both on the same weekend and we sent the funny car to the AHRA race and put John Stewart in the RED for the NHRA race in Amarillo as they weren't planning on taking there own car so he agreed to drive ours---If I hadn't been flying all night and then going to Amarillo maybe I wouldn't have put the main fuel valve in backwards after a jet change----

    Anyway, I think the driver/car that has the best season should be the champion and that means the best seasons totasl points, even if it ends 6 races early----
    What I don't like is the 2,3, and 4 car teams----buddies and friends is ok but teams??????this isn't a stick and ball sport, its dragracing, taking on one other car at a time---no laterals, passing, punts, time outs, or subsituions---

    Qualifying points for the shoot outs, extra points for low et and topspeed, track records and national records and so many per round of racing-----do away with the oil down point BS( with this level of performance oildowns and occasional fire will happen)

    And get them darn hospitility trailers out of the pits---when Kenny Berstein got Bud, his flower bill was more than we spent racing!!!What happened to the day that you could be working on your car and you could ask a spectator to hand you something?

    Maybe its time for my medicine

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    this is drag racing, not nascar , i really do not like the new points system, it is unfair , the points are built up over the whole season, so if a team has the championship locked up with 5 races to go ....... well that team was very good that year , i know they want to find a better system, look at the big picture, this is drag racing and the whole season should be counted for all because we all know anything can happen at any time ....... be safe all ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry clayton
    Well. exciting as I thought it was, I don't like it---but I'm probably looking at it differently than most of you---as a car owner, I didn't like the drivers getting the points--In 1970 we had three different drivers--Norm Wilcox, Steve Carbonne, and Rick Ramsey--we didn't have enough points to get into the Supernationals at Ontario,.Ca----Steve Gibbs got us in as a fill in for some east coast car( Field was to be east/west) but Bernie Partridge wouldn't let us in as he wanted all full bodied cars!!!(we got best appearing car at the race)

    In a later year, NHRA and AHRA had there World Finals both on the same weekend and we sent the funny car to the AHRA race and put John Stewart in the RED for the NHRA race in Amarillo as they weren't planning on taking there own car so he agreed to drive ours---If I hadn't been flying all night and then going to Amarillo maybe I wouldn't have put the main fuel valve in backwards after a jet change----

    Anyway, I think the driver/car that has the best season should be the champion and that means the best seasons totasl points, even if it ends 6 races early----
    What I don't like is the 2,3, and 4 car teams----buddies and friends is ok but teams??????this isn't a stick and ball sport, its dragracing, taking on one other car at a time---no laterals, passing, punts, time outs, or subsituions---

    Qualifying points for the shoot outs, extra points for low et and topspeed, track records and national records and so many per round of racing-----do away with the oil down point BS( with this level of performance oildowns and occasional fire will happen)

    And get them darn hospitility trailers out of the pits---when Kenny Berstein got Bud, his flower bill was more than we spent racing!!!What happened to the day that you could be working on your car and you could ask a spectator to hand you something?

    Maybe its time for my medicine

    Jerry
    I'm with you 100% Jerry ............. I don't like the new points scheme ............ I don't like multi car teams ........... I don't like breakouts and indexes ............. I guess it comes down to the fact that I don't like drag racing as a business rather than a sport

    But then again, like you, I'm old and was on the dragstrips during the "Golden Age" of drag racing ............... and like you sir, it's time for my medicine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Coyote
    I'm with you 100% Jerry ............. I don't like the new points scheme ............ I don't like multi car teams ........... I don't like breakouts and indexes ............. I guess it comes down to the fact that I don't like drag racing as a business rather than a sport

    But then again, like you, I'm old and was on the dragstrips during the "Golden Age" of drag racing ............... and like you sir, it's time for my medicine
    I have said this before and as a former bracket-racer it really bites.
    When I bracket -raced we where running three times a week.
    I.M.O.,the down fall of bracket racing began as soon as everyone and their brother started to run delay boxes.
    I am not sure what year this was here locally but when you need one to win that was when I was done drag racing.

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    Being as how I'll be 69 in three weeks I guess I qualify as one of the "old timers".

    I raced stockers, Modified Production(remember them?), Junior Fuel (now there was a fun class) and Pro Stocks(in it's infancy) when Drag Racing was fun.

    Unfortunately, while the new rules and the way the game is played may not be fun for everyone.......something had to be done if the sport is to continue to grow.

    Sponsors....what a pain in the ass! But try competing in todays envirement without them. So, concessions have to be made.

    Delay boxes....Outlaw em, it's supposed to be car & driver against car & driver. Not a couple of mini computors racing each other.

    Of course it's about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, isn't evrything?

    If you're like me, unfortunately no matter how slanted things get...you still love the sport.

    Hell, I can't leave a stoplight without being the first to move on the green!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer2
    Hell, I can't leave a stoplight without being the first to move on the green!!!
    We definitely have something in common.

    As far as the rest of it goes, NHRA did tweak the point system for this year and time will tell.
    Pro Stock needs to go back to "banging the gears" and delay boxes need to be outlawed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer2
    Unfortunately, while the new rules and the way the game is played may not be fun for everyone.......something had to be done if the sport is to continue to grow.
    I have heard this argument a thousand times ......... and I'm sorry, I don't buy it ............ I don't think the sport has really grown ............. when I went to Indy in '69 there were 57 top fuel teams competing for 32 positions ......... now you have less than two dozen teams in the country ............. 868 stock cars were at Indy in '69 .......... today you're lucky if you can get 200 ............ all across the boards the number of cars competing is down (with the exception of the new import classes) ............. the number of drag strips in this country continues to decline ............. IMO the sport has not grown ......... only become more "respectable", commercialized, and televised

    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer2
    Of course it's about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, isn't evrything?
    Yes it is, in all sports ........... that's what is wrong with "sports" today ......... and that's why we have so many sports related problems and attitudes

    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer2
    If you're like me, unfortunately no matter how slanted things get...you still love the sport.
    Yes, I do too ................ but I'm really sad to see what has happened to it .......... I'm a firm believer in Don Ewald's classic statement ...... "We did it for love"

    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer2
    Hell, I can't leave a stoplight without being the first to move on the green!!!
    I'm with you there 100% ............ we may have to grow old, but we can refuse to grow up
    Last edited by Old Coyote; 01-19-2008 at 06:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer2
    Hell, I can't leave a stoplight without being the first to move on the green!!!

    me either

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    It sure is something when the points battles are sorted out within a team--

    I'm sorry ---team sports need a ball

    Drag cars have one seat for a reason

    I n a true race everybody runs to the end

    It'll be interesting without Torco this year

    I would agree to 4 car teams if they ran 8 at a time

    Jerry

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