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    John really blew it on this one by picking Neff. He missed a chance to make a kazillion dollars by having a driver search on TV!!!!

    Since no previous strip experience is needed he coulda got a cross section of americana to 'CHASE THE DREAM' You know, a couple blue collar types, wall street suits, housewifes, a couple homeless people, rich preppy types, Ya this would work!! Ten minutes of class time, a couple of 60' 'squirts' and HAMMER DOWN............ The ones that make it to the other end make it to the second cut and so on................

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    IMO John is a clown
    Friends dont let friends drive fords!

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    From the horses mouth (No Mustang pun intended).

    http://competitionplus.com/index.php...3371&Itemid=24

    If JFR is doing it wrong.........Scrape together a few bux and start your own F/C team. Then you can make the right decision about who drives & who doesn't.
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    Right on!


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    I think John Force made the reasons for his selection perfectly clear.... If we should decide to put a 3rd car together this winter, my selection for a driver is going to be a 19 year old kid with 0 passes on the quarter mile. Going to take him out towards the end of the summer and let him run my Mustang a few times, then just teach him the rest as we go. I like his work ethic and his attitude. Like to see him have a chance. Sometimes it's good to go with the person most deserving a chance, not the person most qualified for the job....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson
    Sometimes it's good to go with the person most deserving a chance, not the person most qualified for the job....

    WHAT???


    No offense Dave, but am I the only one here that makes absolutely no sense to?

    Im of the opinion that at the top level NHRA PRO CLASSES the most qualified IS THE MOST DESERVING. Jeez louise are you advocating some type of affirmative action for the pro classes?


    NOW THE WORLD ACCORDING TO MIKE!!!!(im never wrong, just ask me)

    It is wrong to let someone with no drag racing experience(driving) go straight to the pro's with only school and a few single squirts. It says a lot to the legitimacy (or lack thereof) as a whole.

    Some have said that the alky class has nothing to offer as experience to a fule driver. THIS IS WRONG.. How can learning how to handle an out of control car at 250MPH not help prepare a driver for doing it at 300mph? Im not talking about the differences in staging, clutch or not, rpm's up or not, im talking car control. It makes no sense to pick a rook over a rookie with experience.

    Im not going to name names but some of the drivers listed by some here as having no experience DO HAVE EXPERIENCE. I borrowed a couple of TI bolts from a guy at sacramento while he was shaking down an A-fuel car well before he ever ran a FC. You see him on tv quite a bit but was listed as one of the beginners on here by someone. I can give another example first hand but will leave it at that.

    I'll also say this. Not everyone in the pro pits thinks its all hunky dory to bring a greenie straight to the pro's. I'll leave out how I know this, think of it what you will.

    And for the life of me I cant figure why this subject seems to get under peoples skin.

    Just one mans opinion that dont mean squat, mine I mean.


    NOW THATS THE WAY IT IS OR DAMN WELL SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Im done and now return you to your regular programming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike in Motown
    Im done and now return you to your regular programming.
    Thank God!
    You sure are obsessed with the way John Force runs his business. I don't give a d%^& if he hires Little Miss Muffet to drive one HIS cars it is HIS business!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NTFDAY
    Thank God!
    You sure are obsessed with the way John Force runs his business. I don't give a d%^& if he hires Little Miss Muffet to drive one HIS cars it is HIS business!


    Not a bad choice, I heard LMM ran an A/GAS car back in the day. Hey its something!

    Now back to your nap grumpy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike in Motown

    And for the life of me I cant figure why this subject seems to get under peoples skin.
    It's not the subject. Even a good song gets old if you listen to it over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......over..... & over......
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    [QUOTE=Mike in Motown]WHAT???



    Im not going to name names but some of the drivers listed by some here as having no experience DO HAVE EXPERIENCE. I borrowed a couple of TI bolts from a guy at sacramento while he was shaking down an A-fuel car well before he ever ran a FC. You see him on tv quite a bit but was listed as one of the beginners on here by someone. I can give another example first hand but will leave it at that.

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    I think you have read to many message boards that belive what they print and want others to do the same.
    I am no longer involved with NHRA pro classes but I still know many that are. Bottom line everyone wants to be there and they dont care how they get there.
    It takes money and/or a break and someone needs to give you both.
    Like I said before there are many peole that are or have raced fuel cars that have never raced anything else.
    Back on the subject Ashley is growing and doing fine. I still think she will get a few breaks and win this year

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    Hey, if she does get a win this year, she will have beat ol pops, it took him ten years to get a win.

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    I'm just amazed that this thread is still alive and kicking. Talk about making a mountain out of an ant hill. This poor horse has been beaten to death, raised from the dead and beaten again.

    As far as Ashley's performance so far... I give her an A plus. But I don't matter, it's what her dad thinks and her sponsors think that really matter. Certainly not anybody here, including me.
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    may i quote aerosmith? "its the same oll song and daaaaaaance my friend!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gassersrule_196
    may i quote aerosmith? "its the same oll song and daaaaaaance my friend!!!"
    Nope, you ain't old enough to quote Aerosmith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We'd first have to make sure you have an oldies station playing on the shop radio and not a bunch of that head banger crap!!!!!!!!!!!
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    You can have the last wise word on that one Dave and rightfully so. The court of public opinion has the noose around my neck for repetitiveness so I'll let it be for now. Maybe I'll open the can back up if some NEW news breaks on the subject.

    Back to the original topic about Ashley.

    OK SO WHAT SAY YALL, grade wise on Ashley's performance so far.


    I give her a C

    Now remember, grade her factoring in the first year driver, resources, team, pressure, etc. Take all into consideration and grade HER performance.

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