Jack, I'll have to find the catalog. I never talked to them r/e 'which axles are you using', I was just going by what the catalog said. It was about a 4 year old catalog {the chassis was built about 3 years ago} but I've seen it around the house within the last few months. But your right I need to back my complaint up with the catalog..... LOL @ "we are tired of hearing about Gibbon's"!! ah, not really, if someone 'burns' someone I don't think you can talk about it too much!!! Thanks, Bill