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    Wow, that is a great find and it's nice it has aged so well. Very nice find again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    Wow, that is a great find and it's nice it has aged so well. Very nice find again!
    Thanx Ryan. I doubt that you'll find or see another in this well preserved condition anywhere in the U.S.
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    But the question has to be asked Don....... will you be keeping it for awhile ? Maybe for several years to wath the value increase, money in the bank wouldn't increase as much as this cars value would I would think. Have you taken any photo's of the engine yet to post here ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiplash23T View Post
    But the question has to be asked Don....... will you be keeping it for awhile ? Maybe for several years to wath the value increase, money in the bank wouldn't increase as much as this cars value would I would think. Have you taken any photo's of the engine yet to post here ?



    Don't know if I'll keep it or not, already turned down a 2 hefty profit offers.
    Here's a couple engine shots and dash. Check out the wear on the steering wheel.
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    Very nice, but one question. How do the engine breathe, I didn't see a pcv system or a road draft tube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NTFDAY View Post
    Very nice, but one question. How do the engine breathe, I didn't see a pcv system or a road draft tube?
    All of the engine shots we've seen are drivers side, slightly different perspective. If it's circa '57 it's probably a road draft tube which would be tucked in the back, hanging down on the passenger side by the bellhousing.
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    In the older Chevy 283 and 327 motors, there was a vapor canister in the lifter valley connected to a hole in the back of the block. On the outside of the block, there was a tube that went down the back of the block as Roger mentioned. The air passing over the draft tube pulled vapors out of the engine. They also left black oil streaks in parking lots, garages and on highways. Check the 4th post down on this page. They were eliminated when PCV valves were mandated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NTFDAY View Post
    Very nice, but one question. How do the engine breathe, I didn't see a pcv system or a road draft tube?
    I know that Ken knows the old road draft tubes as well as any of us do, or maybe better being an old bow tie guy from the pre-PCV days. The question here is for Don on what his old 327 is running to ventilate the crankcase. Still got the road draft tube, Don, or was it one of the "modern" engines from the early to mid '60's? That oil fill tube up front kinda pushes towards the pre-PCV version.
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    It's a later 327 with the oil fill/vent in the front of the intake manifold. Breaths very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DA34GUY View Post
    It's a later 327 with the oil fill/vent in the front of the intake manifold. Breaths very well.
    ....and the "road draft tube" off of the back of the block, open to the atmosphere? That's the "old school" question, 'cause ya' don't see those much anymore and I'd bet that there are at least a few who are saying, "What the heck is a road draft tube??"
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    California first mandated pcv systems in '62 or 3 and the factory came up with a "patch" to eliminate the road draft tube. If you look at the link Jack posted in the 5th post, the bottom picture shows the "nipple" like device that replaced the rdt and accommodated a hose/pcv system while still retaining the front fill pipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter View Post
    California first mandated pcv systems in '62 or 3 and the factory came up with a "patch" to eliminate the road draft tube. If you look at the link Jack posted in the 5th post, the bottom picture shows the "nipple" like device that replaced the rdt and accommodated a hose/pcv system while still retaining the front fill pipe.

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    Weird deal the govt helped ditch road draft tubes on gas engines so long ago. Diesels still have them today.
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    The reason I brought the question up is because when I returned from Okinawa in 1964 my Dad had bought me a sweet little 57 Ford Custom from the same dealer that he purchased his new T bird from. The road draft tube was plugged and the oil filler breather was changed from open to closed and a mickey mouse pcv system installed.
    That was in June and a couple of months later heading to Anaheim from Santa Fe Springs where I had dropped a buddy off there was suddenly a load bang and oil all over the right side of the windshield. The pressure in the crankcase had built up to such a point and had nowhere to go that it blew the dipstick out and put a dent in the hood. I stopped at a gas station cleaned the windshield off and added almost 2 quarts of oil and put the dipstick back in it's place.
    The next morning I pulled the plug on the road draft tube, you should have seen the mess it made on my Dad's asphalt driveway, and went back to an open oil filler breather. But the damage was done as it starved the bearings and she started smoking so I sold the car to one of my buddies, he knew the history, and in Sept I went home to Ohio to pick up my 36 5 window coupe.
    Oh and by the way, the road draft tube on a sbc is located on the driver's side, not the passenger side.
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