Thread: Last trip to nats?

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Well, a few corrections there hottrod57....Not all of us want to fight this, a Hot Rod is a Hot Rod regardless of year.

Nothing after '72 is a Hot Rod???? Might want to be careful who's standing around when you say that!!!! There's a whole fleet of blown big block 80's pick ups out there and I'm quite sure most of them would take exception to your definition!!!!

Hot Rod, by definition, is any car who's performance has been improved..... If that ends up being a '79 Monte Carlo with a raspy, bullet fast 383 stroker or an '83 Mustang with a 460 cube stroker Windsor, I'll betcha a bunch of money that either would run circles around the standard 'glass bodied '32-'34 "Ford" with the usual 350/350 combination!!!!

Yes, it is all about money.......Costs a fortune to put on one of these shows and costs a bunch to go there as a spectator, participant, or especially as a vendor. Money is what makes the world go round, not the snobbery of someone thinking that your car isn't old enough!!!!! How about all those 'glass bodies that were built last month??? Are they REALLY pre 49 cars??????

I'm sure there's hundred of petitions around now, doubt they will change anything!!!! Those of you who are so adamant that YOUR definition is the only one that counts are free to start your own organization and exclude anyone you want.....and good luck with anything resembling financial success or even break-even $$$$$ with such an organization.....

IMO SEMA puts on probably the most comprehensive show with the best selection of vendors and best location of all of them..... NSRA worked ok 20 years ago, but fortunately the folks who run the organization were smart enough to see the necessity of including all types of cars at their events to ensure their success and growth!!!!! Losing a few malcontents doesn't even come close to offsetting the number of new members they will gain!!!!!

If you want to see Hot Rodding continue to grow as a sport, hobby, business opportunity, or whatever else you may want to reconsider what the results of catering to the pre-48 only cars vs. bringing in a couple more generations of Hot Rodders and potential Hot Rodders with their version of a Hot Rod will bring to the world of Hot Rodding. Yeah, it is all about money........

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Yes, it is all about money.......Costs a fortune to put on one of these shows and costs a bunch to go there as a spectator, participant, or especially as a vendor. Money is what makes the world go round, not the snobbery of someone thinking that your car isn't old enough!!!!! How about all those 'glass bodies that were built last month??? Are they REALLY pre 49 cars??????

Maybe it should be restricted ALL STEEL pre 49 cars......

why is it people are "snobs" ??, if they want a the NATS to be just for pre '49 cars? I intentionally joined this car club for this reason, when I said the 1970's & later cars not hotrods they are not!, just read nsra's own description of a hotrod, that is what I meant by that statement! I think it would fine to bump the cut-off dates up at other nsra shows, just not the nationals. For all the people who want cars shows, that are open to later model cars, there are plenty of car shows to go too.The NSRA needs drop street rod out of it's name.

There are a lot of cars after 72 that are hot rods. Read Hot Rodder. Look at some of the Pintos out there. VW Busses, Vettes, 442's, Caddies, Mustangs, Firebirds, Camaros. If we try to exclude someones else's hotrod from our definition, what happens, when say they exclude yours. Dave makes some great points, what about 2009 fiberglass pre war willys bodies, Hell what about 2009 steal 32 coupe bodies. Now lets look at the engines, is a new hopped up 4.6 lt for, chevy ls7 alowed into the club, or does it have to be a flatty! Is an aluminum radiator ok? Modern trannies? Where do you cut off the definition. Do we start submitting carbon dated steel samples from the body of our classic?
I do get that a lot of folks like pre 48 designs, and some are purists to the point of everything in their car is old, or, just the design is old. A lot of people think muscle cars ended in 1972, and everything ever made after that is junk.
My response is take a 2007 Mercury Marauder out for a spin!. Try driving a new vette. If GM makes the new Camero, dare yah to emasculate it!
I don't personaly care if I'm excluding from a show because my truck is a 48, and not a 47. I figure it's old enough for me. I also like alot of the early fifties stuff coming out, Mercs, Tudor Fords, that were rodded back in their day, and again now. If a 58 year old car is too new, What the heck? People work equally hard on new stuff as they do on kits, as they do on original pre 48's. Would you exclude a 32 with IFS?
Billet?
Where do you draw the line? Some of us appreciate everything in the spectrum, we wouldn't do it maybe, but we sure can appreciate another person's passion for their dream and skills.

I guess this isn't a street rod? Poor guy should of bought a 47!

Its not a "street rod"... Its a 50's custom.

I think hotrod57 means to say "street rod" where he is saying "hot rod". The NSRA is the National STREET ROD Association. By their own definition a street rod is a pre-49 modified vehicle. It says nothing about "hot rod".

Yes there are a lot of hot rods out there that are post '49...... they're just not street rods. He is also correct that the NSRA should change their name. In 2010 it will no longer be the NSRA. It will be the NBAA..... National Bring Anything Association.

Its fine for you non NSRA members to be supportive of the 30 year rule.... but there is no reason you have to berate those NSRA members who are against it. Join the NSRA first then your argument might hold some weight.

I've been an NSRA member for over 20 years and this will be my last trip to the Nats and I won't renew my membership. Why drive from Arizona to Kentucky to see the same cars I can see in my local KMart parking lot.

Originally Posted by Rufus

Its not a "street rod"... Its a 50's custom.

I think hotrod57 means to say "street rod" where he is saying "hot rod". The NSRA is the National STREET ROD Association. By their own definition a street rod is a pre-49 modified vehicle. It says nothing about "hot rod".

Yes there are a lot of hot rods out there that are post '49...... they're just not street rods. He is also correct that the NSRA should change their name. In 2010 it will no longer be the NSRA. It will be the NBAA..... National Bring Anything Association.

Its fine for you non NSRA members to be supportive of the 30 year rule.... but there is no reason you have to berate those NSRA members who are against it. Join the NSRA first then your argument might hold some weight.

I've been an NSRA member for over 20 years and this will be my last trip to the Nats and I won't renew my membership. Why drive from Arizona to Kentucky to see the same cars I can see in my local KMart parking lot.

I quit being a member of NSRA better then 20 years ago..... Got to be nothing but a cavalcade of 'glass cars with sbc's.... and the "snobbery" of all the different factions within NSRA at the time almost brought about it's demise!!!!

Personally I don't berate anybody who is in NSRA.....but it's an organization that is changing it's criteria in response to what is actually going on in the world of Hot Rodding!!!!! Without profitability in putting on these shows, there will be fewer of them.....Obviously the folks in charge have seen the need to adjust their criteria to maintain the caliber of the shows....and now a few malcontents seem to think they could run things better....Well, start your own organization and see how things go with pre-49 only, and as someone else mentioned, add a touch of reality and make it real steel pre-49 only!!!!!!! Face it guys, there is very little on any of these cars that is pre-49.....just the body style.....so what is the big deal with ruling out others who have equal or higher quality cars????

hmmmmm. Nobody wanted to address the issue of "pre-'49" being applied to a 2009 glass body on a 2009 frame with a 2009 drivetrain??????

Around here in the mid 80's, there was many who believed NSRA actually meant "national sissy rod association" cuz most of the cars had IFS instead of a straight axle, air conditioning, multi thousand dollar interiors, radial tires, tinted glass, and all that other "modern" stuff!!!!! and yes, I DROVE my STEEL BODIED '27 roadster with a straight axle in front and buggy spring rear with Lincoln flattie, Zephyr trans, and Franklin quickie to the Nats in Oklahoma City.... It would seem the more things change, the more they stay the same!!!!

Actually, now that NSRA has pulled their collective heads out of the sand and looked around to see there is a whole world of cars they have been excluding from their events, I might just send them my $$$$$ again....and put their little decal on the quarter window of my '83 Mustang!!!!!