Thread: Mild vibration at speed
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03-31-2007 08:54 AM #1
Originally Posted by DennyW
I'm glad to see that I'm not the last rod builder who prefers throttle rods instead of cable.
Granted, throttle cables can make life easy and in some cases are a necessity, but I see way more problems with them than with throttle rods.
Aside from a little work - threading, cutting to size, buffing etc. - making a throttle rod is no big deal.
I use 1/4" stainless rod and quality Heims from a bearing house.
Heims are about $5.00 - $7.00 each nowadays.
Including the stainless rod there's about $12.00 in the one shown above and nowadays it can still be done for less than $15.
Fwiw, the little firewall gizmo shown where the throttle rod goes through the firewall is a fume/heat sealing device that has a Teflon floater that moves as the throttle rod rises and falls as it operates.
Takes into account transverse torque movements as well.
Shown in the two pics of my 31 below.C9
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03-31-2007 09:41 AM #2
Originally Posted by DennyW
Thanks.
My own idea and you're looking at a couple of different ways to do it.
The 32 has a step machined into the aluminum escutcheon.
The smaller in diameter Teflon floater sits inside the step which is slightly deeper than than the floater is thick.
It also rides on a 'full-size' Teflon backing plate.
It's worked well for a lot of miles - perhaps 35,000 or so.
The hole drilled in the floater is 1/4" as is the throttle rod.
Ater a few hundred miles the fit became a bit loser and wear after that was virtually non-existent.
The 31's gizmo is a litte different.
I was going to do a tech article on making them and wanted to show another way to do it for rodders who didn't own a lathe.
Basics are, there's a Teflon backing plate, a Teflon floater and a Teflon ring between aluminum escutcheon and Teflon backing plate.
The aluminum escutcheon is a simple flat piece cut out with a hole saw and finished with file and 3M abrasive pad in a drill press using a mandrel.
The 31's Mark 2 version looks like it will operate just as well as the 32's prototype that's machined etc.
The pic should give you an idea how it's constructed.
I guess that's enough of highjacking Joey's thread . . . today....C9
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04-02-2007 10:04 AM #3
Originally Posted by C9x
It was the only way to do it back when I started ...and I just never saw the need to buy a store bought cable thingie when I could make a rod up easily. I do paint mine " Discreet BLACK "
Going 33 and 1/3 rpms in a IPOD world
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03-31-2007 12:32 AM #4
Is this a new build, or something that's been in use for a while when the problem started? Automatic trans?
I'm thinking maybe torque shudder. What you describe would likely be a problem in the trans, not the TC it's self. It seemed to be fairly common on ford trucks, alot of times a fluid and filter change would take care of it if caught early enough. I'm far from an expert, just adding a new idea to the mix.
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03-31-2007 05:11 AM #5
Its a new build. TH350 trans, 9" Ford open rear, 3.00 gear. Transmission is rebuilt, so the fluid/filter in it should have less than 100 miles on them.Joe Barr
1932 Ford Roadster
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04-01-2007 04:34 PM #6
Joe. Do you know anything about the torque converter in your roadster? Has it been rebuilt? These can be a cause of driveline vibration also. Some converter rebuilders do not do a good job balancing these once they have been rebuilt. If you can't find the cause of the vibration, you may have to remove the converter to flexplate bolts and slide the converter back and check to see if the vibration goes away. This will tell you if it is in the drivetrain or the engine.
Dammit, another good ol boy gone. Condolence to the family. RIP Mike
RIP Mike Frade, aka 34_40