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    How Much/How big? Air cleaners.

     



    How big(dia x height) Does one need for good/full flow. Is taller better than dia, round vs oval, Paper vs washable?

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    Do any of these advertised "filter adds-ons" really work? I.E. Filter tops, Stub stacks, or others that say they add HP or is it just a bunch of BS?

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    Replace your paper filter with a K&N filter and you will get a lot more air.
    60 Vette 350 5speed not much stock.

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    According to K&N, the motor needs 1 square inch of filter area for each 6 CFM of air into the motor. This is ACTUAL filter area and does not include the glue around the perimeter or other protuberances that might get in the way of the ACTUAL filtering medium.

    If a 350 Chevy with short cam, short intake, small carb and cast iron exhaust manifolds passes 486 CFM @ 6000 RPM's @ 80% efficiency, then you would divide 486 by 6 and find that you would want 81 square inches of ACTUAL filter area. Some 14 x 2 filters that I have seen have only about 1 3/4 inches (or less) of ACTUAL filtering medium. If you multiply 14 times 3.14159 times 1.75, you find that such a filter has an ACTUAL filtering area of 77 square inches. So, theoretically, a 14 x 2 filter will not even feed a crummy little 350 Chevy making 80% efficiency. What to do? Glue two or more filter elements on top of each other and use a longer stud. You guys with a 100% 383 will definitely need a two-stacker.

    What's that you say Bunkie???? No room under the hood???? No such thing, Dude. Fire up the Sawzall and MAKE room.

    I don't even say anything any more to the ricers who show up at Firebird. Some time ago, one of them laid down some long green for a Fosdick intake air system that terminated with a K&N filter. Now, this fellow terminated the filter right behind the radiator core, the worst possible place to take in intake air on the entire car. (200+ degrees F.). Well, since then, every ricer who shows up has the same idiot arrangement. It's a case of monkey see, monkey do, without ever thinking through the consequences (the car slows down).
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    Wow Richard, you never cease to amaze me with your technical knowledge. One of the reasons I love this site,if one asks a question one receives an in-depth answer.
    I have stainless stacks 6" high with only a fine gauze to stop foreign objects getting into the carbs. It looks good and sounds good but really does it improve performance or just cutting the live of the motor down with it breathing all the road dust etc.???
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    Quote Originally Posted by techinspector1 View Post
    The motor needs 1 square inch of filter area for each 6 CFM of air into the motor.
    Please explain where you got this number. Does it not change with each manufacture on the flow rate of the paper they each use, the number of folds (length of element) K&N? K&N copies.
    Aren't they all different CFM's
    Using your 1 3/4x14xpi. wouldn't that "ACTUAL filtering area of 77 square inches" be off by about 2-3 times, depending on the paper length. (folds)
    When you put a residence (airfilter) in any flow, you don't go by the opening, you go by surface area residence per inch for CFM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HemiTCoupe View Post
    Please explain where you got this number.
    Amended my post to say "according to K&N"....

    Quote Originally Posted by HemiTCoupe View Post
    Does it not change with each manufacture on the flow rate of the paper they each use, the number of folds (length of element) K&N? K&N copies. Aren't they all different CFM's
    Probably, but we have to start somewhere. If you have a better reply to the OP's question, then please post it.

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    OK lets see if I got this right.

    14 X 3.14159 X 3.75(4in tall filter)= 164.93 of suface area.

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