Thread: Rad vs A/C Condenser
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08-21-2009 06:34 PM #1
Try the fans in front of the rad pushing the air thru to cool the rad.
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08-21-2009 08:08 PM #2
It's a pretty common problem with early cars like your Chevy and others like 39-40 Fords. The shape of the front end sometimes doesn't cause air to go through the radiator, but it gets deflected around the front instead. Another problem can be that the air in the engine compartment has no way to exit. When you put a big V8 in an engine room that originally held a smaller 6 or flathead 8 it tends to block some of the airflow in and out of the engine room.
Puller fans are much more efficient than pushers, and a shroud is a must so it directs the air clear across the entire core. A high quality fan is also much more efficient than the Autozone types or even the ones sold by most places like Summit. I like SPAL and I have seen good reports on a Lincoln Mark 8 (I think) fan setup.
For a cooling system to be efficient all the components have to work together. You need good airflow both when sitting and when moving, and good water flow also. Your AC unit is not helping, but lots of guys are running air and having no overheat issues.
You mention two 12 inch fans. Believe it or not, one 16 inch of good quality will out perform those two fans. And I stress again, make up a metal shroud so the core is sealed and the air has to be pulled clear across the face.
Don
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08-21-2009 09:05 PM #3
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Is it actually boiling over or is the gauge just reading excessively high? It is reading over 215 and I stop as I do not want to damage the engine
Are you spot checking with a heat gun. No I am using 2 different temperate gages
You just rebuilt the motor, did you replace the water pump? Yes
Correct rotation? I assume so but will check. It rotates like the other one in my truck.
Maybe try a 195* stat, possibly hot water is circulating so fast with the lower temp stats it doesn't stay in the rad long enough to cool. I have tried a 160 and a 180. I have a 195 but I just hear of a high volume temp stat that I thought I would try.
The shape of the front end sometimes doesn't cause air to go through the radiator, but it gets deflected around the front instead. I will look in to this. As the fan is pulling the air, should I have a shroud in front of the rad so all of the air must go through the rad/condenser?
Another problem can be that the air in the engine compartment has no way to exit. I have the sides off of the engine compartment, so the air can get out.
You mention two 12 inch fans. Believe it or not, one 16 inch of good quality will out perform those two fans. I am wondering if I should put a 16" fan and shroud behind the rad and move the condenser ahead of the rad and put a 12" with shroud behind the condenser?
And I stress again, make up a metal shroud so the core is sealed and the air has to be pulled clear across the face. As the fan is pulling the air, should I have a shroud in front of the rad so all of the air must go through the rad/condenser?
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08-22-2009 12:16 PM #4
Fans
I checked the specs on the Hayden fans and the 16" fan 3700 has 1400 cfm, the 16" model 3710 fan is 1500 cfm and the 12" model 3680 is 800 cfm. They also the Dual 12" Fan model 3800, which I have, has 1600 cfm which is better than either of the 16" fans. So at least with hayden, they claim two 12" is better than one 16".
Wayne
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08-22-2009 01:07 PM #5
Two fans only work better if the core is bigger than 20 x 24, otherwise a single 16 inch with a shroud tends to move more air across the face of the radiator.
As for CFM's, the 16 inch SPAL I have been using moves 3000 cfms, when you turn it on while holding it the thing will try to jump out of your hands.
Size 16" pull / Part# 2113*
[2113] $220.00
Size 16" pull / Part# 2113*
Part: 2113*
Size: 16" pull
Blade Type: Skewed
Thickness: 3.65
AMPS: 22.5
Airflow (CFM): 3000
Don






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