i belive it is dave. i am stressing it. this guy has been the local john milner type since the 60's 70's used to get big into the high winder stock cars and drag cars, even used to build monster bbc's for tractor pull's hes done a bit of everything i suppose, was telling me he started at a mechanics shops month later went to nam came home and hasnt stopped on the racing motors since,! just slowed down a little bit, you daves have an ironic past huh?