Yupir! AND.... that brings up a real interesting point. If something alot of us have taken for gospel for years, could be that far off, such as the published cc volumes on a bread and butter chevy, learning to do (or doing if ya already know) a cc job is a really important step for beginners to know and understand. Alot of folk try to squeeze horsepressure out by shovin' stuff in, but I think its the lost art of building steps that give ya a tire twister.