firebird45331 you cant do this 2 dif ways and Hurst01 thinks you're doing ok, and i think you;re no closer than you was yesterday so im gonna move on and let Hurst01 help you with this. no big deal you just need to get the car running and you need to hook up with one person and i dont do the 12 degrees thing and thats the way you're headed. either way is ok. later