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09-30-2015 06:14 PM #3
Don't do anything else until you have your complete build on paper and run it past us hooligans. I've seen lots of guys start washing the block and buying parts, then end up with the wrong combination.
The first point I would make is that you need to build the right squish/quench into the motor if it will operate on pump gas and that may involve cutting the block decks, so don't wash the block yet.
You're going to use cast iron heads, so that will limit static compression ratio to no more than 9.5:1 in order to prevent detonation on pump fuel. Aluminum heads will control detonation up to 10.5:1, with all else being right.
You will need to measure the block deck height and the stack of parts that you intend to use. For instance, the stock block deck height of a 454 is 9.800". That's measured from the centerline of the main bearing bore to the deck where the heads bolt on. The stack of parts that GM originally used in that motor are:
2.000" crank radius (4.000" stroke)
6.135" rod length
1.640" piston compression height
These 3 values add to 9.775", leaving the crown of the piston down in the bore by 0.025" with the piston at top dead center if the block deck height is actually 9.800" (don't bet on it). When GM built the motor, they used thin steel shim gaskets (about 0.020" thick) to set the squish. Adding the piston deck height of 0.025" and the head gasket thickness of 0.020", you come away with a squish figure of 0.045". (right on the money). You can do the same thing on your rebuild if you find the piston deck height to be close to 0.025", but you need to do the measuring of your parts and the block deck height.
Some fellows like to take a cut on the block decks to insure they are flat and the same distance from the crank centerline on all four corners of the block. The other reason for cutting the decks would be to use aluminum heads. You can't use the thin steel shim gaskets with an aluminum head because of the difference in thermal growth and shrinkage between the iron block and the aluminum heads. The aluminum heads need a cushion to prevent cracking, so you would cut the block decks to maybe "zero deck" and use a thicker composition gasket that would have some "give" to it. Zero deck means that if your stack of parts is 9.775", then you would cut the block decks to a new block deck height of 9.775" and use a 0.035" to 0.045" thickness gasket.
This would be one way of finding the block deck height, measure with a 12" caliper and add the radius of the main bearing bore....
http://jamisonequipment.com/sites/de...s/BHM-24-1.gif
Measure piston compression height by hooking one jaw of your caliper on the top side of the wrist pin bore and the other jaw on the piston crown, then adding the radius of the pin hole.
http://jamisonequipment.com/sites/de...s/BHM-24-1.gif
So, measure your parts stack and your block deck height and let's see where we're at.
.Last edited by techinspector1; 09-30-2015 at 06:23 PM.
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