Ok, I guess I also need some help on figuring out how to attach pics using an iPad. Pat, I definitely appreciate your advice. I'll look for some stock rockers and use them. Didn't see any on summits website but will look again. Do you feel a roller cam is worth it? My new one is still in box so I'm pretty they'd take it back if I went for a roller one and lifters. or would i just be spending a lot of cash for only a few horses? The truck is a 1970 c-10 the engine is original to the truck. It did in 330-340 on a dyno a while back so I don't know how much more hp is out there for this engine. I was hoping the new cam would give me a little more. I'm not very familiar with a roller cam setup so I'm not sure what improvement it will offer. I'm going to keep trying yo upload the pics of the push rods. Thank you again. David