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    402 big block HELP !!

     



    I'm new here so be easy on a old man.

    I have a 1939 Ford Tudor with a 402 big block. 700r4 Transmission.
    I was tearing into the engine to cam and lifters. I was also going to change the valve springs. I pull the heads because the tops of the valves (tips) has some rough edges. Pull the heads a part needs Probably needs all valves and guides.

    My dilemma is to repair these heads or to find a better set that would perform better ?

    #6272292 oval port open chamber cylinder heads
    #3999290 402 engine block

    Edelbrock 0735 Carburetor
    Edelbrock Performer manifold
    cam spec. int. exh.
    adv. dur. 268 280
    dur@.050 224 230 lobe sep. 110.0
    valve lift .515 .520

    Comp Cam # cb xe268h

    Any cylinder head advice would be appreciated !!!!

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    Welcome to CHR Grump!!!! first question has to be, what is the budget for the update on the cylinder heads??? We have a member on here named Pat McCarthy, he's a bib block cylinder head whiz, hopefully he'll get on this post with some good options for you to consider!
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    i used that head on many engines head can be cut for 219 intakes and 188 ex i use a 502x11/32 . guides lets you use a 11/32 stem valve that and the 188 ex helps the flow on the heads .them heads can flow good . looking at the cam you have them heads stock with a 4angle valve job would be fine .what i post is what i do to them . that is far as i go before looking in to a after market head . for what your doing there is no need for that less you want a set of aluminum heads
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    I wonder if my machine shop would be up for that of modification. I will check that out. After market aluminum are a good option ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpys Hot Rod View Post
    I wonder if my machine shop would be up for that of modification. I will check that out. After market aluminum are a good option ?
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    i can not see why i do them all the time . aluminum heads could be you have to watch the port CC runner size as most heads are base off a 454 or hi rpm smaller engine .put to big of a head on the 396/402 you will have a pig
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    Personally, I'd never use an extreme energy grind flat tappet cam in ANY motor and particularly not in a BBC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat mccarthy View Post
    i can not see why i do them all the time . aluminum heads could be you have to watch the port CC runner size as most heads are base off a 454 or hi rpm smaller engine .put to big of a head on the 396/402 you will have a pig
    Just for my own knowledge Pat, would you be thinkin' around 290 cc's?
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    less for the street 402 is no more then a big size 400 sbc so you would not need a very big port. the 270 race rite heads at lower lifts flow good numbers and them may be to big for a mild 402
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    Quote Originally Posted by techinspector1 View Post
    Personally, I'd never use an extreme energy grind flat tappet cam in ANY motor and particularly not in a BBC.
    i was not going to say any thing about the cam
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    So what cam should I be using ? Its new in the box may be return it, or sell it ?

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    well i use roller cams in most all bbc builds here is a cam to look at it fits in a 396 long as heads have not been milled alot or heavy deck block this cam fits this is a hyd roller Erson cam / McCarthy Performance custom @ .050 220/226 lobe sep 110 .550/560.. nice cam .
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    I don't have the experience that Pat or Tech has but will attest that the extreme energy(comp) or voodoo(lunati) have extrordinarily fast ramps. I have used 2 extreme energy flats and 1 voodoo in 3 different builds... 1 small block and 2 bigblocks. There is a noticeable valvetrain noise associated with the "more lift under the curve" cams. From the aricles i have read, they have more of a propensity for eating lifters. I used the comp pro magnum rolller rockers, EDM lifters ( for the two solids) and matching springs with special attention to installled height of springs and geometry. I break in the cam just as the cam manufacturer suggests and have been lucky so far with big blocks. I did wipe a 283 cam though. Like Pat suggests, if you plan on putting many reliable miles on it, go to roller.

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