Thanks Pat, just got off the phone with comp cams, they said I should be using a pan gasket from SCE ? I also called summit and they did not have a clue of what I was telling them. Dont know if Im doing it wrong, or if everone modifys the gaskets for these covers, its not just the one piece gasket,the 4 piece rubber and cork is not seating right around the timing cover also. Going to try to find the right gasket, and last resort bust out the razor.