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    ? about a bbc running 8 degrees btdc, total 30 degree at 3200 rpms

     



    have a rebuild(not by me) 1974 454 bbc, which I have just put in a 39 chevy. I don't know the cam, but would say it is a mild cam. I have always been told you want to run total mech. between 32-34 degrees at 3000 rpms,
    I have a mallory unilite 9000comp dist., which has 24 degree mech timing built in , no vacum. so the intial should be 10-12 degress btdc, but the engine runs best with 8 degrees intial timing & 30 total. will running with that low of total timing damage the engine? or should I run the intial up to 10? the rearend is running 3.00 gears with 29" tall rear tires. one more question, why doesn't the dist. need a vacum advance for the engine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hottrodd57
    have a rebuild(not by me) 1974 454 bbc, which I have just put in a 39 chevy. I don't know the cam, but would say it is a mild cam. I have always been told you want to run total mech. between 32-34 degrees at 3200 rpms,
    I have a mallory unilite 9000comp dist., which has 24 degree mech timing built in , no vacum. so the intial should be 10-12 degress btdc, but the engine runs best with 8 degrees intial timing & 30 total. will running with that low of total timing damage the engine? or should I run the intial up to 10? the rearend is running 3.00 gears with 29" tall rear tires. one more question, why doesn't the dist. need a vacum advance for the engine?
    I would try and have the advance out before 3,000 rpm's.

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    I'm running 28 total so I can use 91 octane gas. I do have vaccum advance also. Its adjustable and is set for 10 to 15 deg. of advance. I get 13.3 mpg if I behave. BBC 454+.030- 10.7:1 comp -Iron heads- comp 280H cam. 308 HP at wheels on 91 octane
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    In general vacuum advance helps with mileage, emissions, and starting on street engines. You can run fine without it as long as you have a distributor that you can tune the mechanical advance on.

    In general BBC's with no vacuum advance like about 12 deg initial and a fairly aggressive ramp to 34-36 all in by 3000 rpm. I could believe there are those that like 8 deg initial as well. In general w/o vacuum advance you run as much initial as you (and your starter) can tolerate.

    Will it hurt anything? I don't think so as long as there is no detonation due to being too far advanced and you have a decent starter. 8 deg initial should be easy on starter.

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    Shouldn't hurt, but you'll be more prone to run hot and fuel efficiency will not be so great without enough timing lead. Unless you have fairly high compression (>10:1) you ought to be able to run 34-36*+ with pump premium no problem, but there's too many variables we don't know such as compression ratio, cam timing, and fuel grade to say for sure.

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