Thread: 396 build up

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Pat, you haven't asked the magic words yet.....

"Mad Hooker, would you like to buy my motor that is all worked out and assembled?"

i see that i am WRONG SOME SOB TOLD ME THAT THEY MAKE TWO TYPES OF PISTONS FOR THE 396-402 NOW they make 3 and they over sold them to me by $130 to much someone is goning to hear me and i will not be very happy and this is my ware house price on them and summit beat them boy some one is goning to get reamed out good. and on the engine i have i will sell it to any one. he will not build one for my price and now it is $130 less

Actually, there are more than that. Summit lists the following:
Sterling/FM STL460P cast 30, 40, 60
TRW-L2240-NF forged std, 30, 40, 60
TRW-L2287-F forged 30, 60
TRW-L2242-F forged 30, 40, 60
Wiseco PT039-H3 forged
JE JEP-170703 forged
Ross ROS-83762 forged

yes i know that je and ross will make any thing but i did not want to spend $650+ on a set of je or ross this was a engine to sell not eatand had a steel new l88 crank just could not put a set of cast pistons in it this was some fill in at the shop and play with. all the big bore stuff i do this is close as i wanted to get to a small block .and got it at a fair price. all the 454 blocks are drying up and thought it would be fun? built some over 25 year ago you know relive youth that ross numer is no good for 4.280 bore 427 +30 or something is not right

pat dont get upset, the reason i ask so much is because this is gonna be my first build, and it sounds like you know your stuff so i was trying to get everything out of you that i could thats all, i thank you very much and all the tips i got from you and everyone else, it really helps me alot. but i think i got pretty much everything i needed to know for this build, im prettyt sure everything from the carb to the tranny. thank you guys for helping me out.

ah man that sucks id be pissed about them over charging! id do the same bro, go ring some necks.

Originally posted by mad hooker
ah man that sucks id be pissed about them over charging! id do the same bro, go ring some necks.

yes i have been dealing with them for some time. someone is getting a$$ reaming they told me that they stop making the piston i wanted for this engine they said were not being made any more then they screw me on the price to boot and i not mad at you. not big on spelling or typing so some time i think i may not get across and it is hard for me to do the post i have wornoff the cover of my spelling ace

haha yea i hear ya, man id be sooo pissed on the piston deal, but with the pistons you got will you or are you going to build the engine to your specs?

yes this will be the way i told you have to work on the heads and it will be done. the same cam roller small but this is a gm take out of boat engines and they work good and they are cheap you have to do a bit of work to get it to work like get the gm cam plate this keeps the cam in the blockand used a new mark6 timing set but this is no big deal and run a electric fuel pump they work better any ways that block mounted. i think

im planning on going to the good guys show down here in pleasenton, im sure ill find a 396 there and then ill start my build. but first i have to get my van running, i still gotta put in a new harness, engine and tranny. but i dont thgink it will take long, all pretty straight forward .

I am getting ready to build up my 402 in a 72' monte carlo per Pat's advice. My rotating assembly has been rebuilt recently so I am taking the 292( last 3 digits) heads down a bit which should yield about 9 to 1 compression. I'll do some pocket porting and shrouding with new ss 2.06/1.77 valves. I'll probably end up with about $500 in them when I'm done. As for the cam, I usually prefer crane but I called comp and he suggested the xr 276 - 224/230 @.50 510/510 lift. This will be my first hydraulic roller. I feel that the lift is unusually small for a roller cam but this is the one the man suggested. I don't care for high lift cams anyway due to the valve train geometry problems that can arrise. I'll go with roller tip rockers and performer intake. I have a stock 750 quadrajet that will be reworked. I have AC and power steering. my intent is to maintain matching numbers and generate around 350 to 375 hp. I seem to like what Pat has to say about 396/402 engines.

i think you will be happy with you 402 your cam sound very close to the cam that i will run in my 402 build. you sound like it .you on the right track. to me the low lift cam will work good make sure there is no junk in the head chamber floor so you get a good flow

Originally posted by mad hooker
heys guys, im planing on getting a 396 for my el camino. probably around summer. my goals are for the engine are to pump out 450-500 horse power and as much torque i can get, how hard would it be to push a 396 to my power limits? and about how much would it cost? say if i start with a block and build up? also i want to run average to low comp, so i can run this engine on pump gas, for a street driven engine, what else would i have to run to get those numbers?

Why limit yourself to a 396/402.Why not find a 454 block and build a 496.I think you should be able to buy a Scat (cast steel crank) for about $300.The Hypereutectic pistons are about $250.Buy a hyd. cam with about 230 of duration at .050 on the intake and 240 on the exhaust.Keep the lift at .550 or less.Find a set of 781 install 2.19/1.88 valves,bowl blend gasket match,RPM performer,750 vac. carb.Install a 3,000 converter,run a 3.73 gear.Have some fun.

Originally posted by erik erikson
Why limit yourself to a 396/402.Why not find a 454 block and build a 496.I think you should be able to buy a Scat (cast steel crank) for about $300.The Hypereutectic pistons are about $250.Buy a hyd. cam with about 230 of duration at .050 on the intake and 240 on the exhaust.Keep the lift at .550 or less.Find a set of 781 install 2.19/1.88 valves,bowl blend gasket match,RPM performer,750 vac. carb.Install a 3,000 converter,run a 3.73 gear.Have some fun.

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