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pat dont get upset, the reason i ask so much is because this is gonna be my first build, and it sounds like you know your stuff so i was trying to get everything out of you that i could thats all, i thank you very much and all the tips i got from you and everyone else, it really helps me alot. but i think i got pretty much everything i needed to know for this build, im prettyt sure everything from the carb to the tranny. thank you guys for helping me out.
ah man that sucks id be pissed about them over charging! id do the same bro, go ring some necks.
yes i have been dealing with them for some time. someone is getting a$$ reaming they told me that they stop making the piston i wanted for this engine they said were not being made any more then they screw me on the price to boot and i not mad at you. not big on spelling or typing so some time i think i may not get across and it is hard for me to do the post i have wornoff the cover of my spelling aceQuote:
Originally posted by mad hooker
ah man that sucks id be pissed about them over charging! id do the same bro, go ring some necks.
haha yea i hear ya, man id be sooo pissed on the piston deal, but with the pistons you got will you or are you going to build the engine to your specs?
yes this will be the way i told you have to work on the heads and it will be done. the same cam roller small but this is a gm take out of boat engines and they work good and they are cheap you have to do a bit of work to get it to work like get the gm cam plate this keeps the cam in the blockand used a new mark6 timing set but this is no big deal and run a electric fuel pump they work better any ways that block mounted. i think
im planning on going to the good guys show down here in pleasenton, im sure ill find a 396 there and then ill start my build. but first i have to get my van running, i still gotta put in a new harness, engine and tranny. but i dont thgink it will take long, all pretty straight forward .
I am getting ready to build up my 402 in a 72' monte carlo per Pat's advice. My rotating assembly has been rebuilt recently so I am taking the 292( last 3 digits) heads down a bit which should yield about 9 to 1 compression. I'll do some pocket porting and shrouding with new ss 2.06/1.77 valves. I'll probably end up with about $500 in them when I'm done. As for the cam, I usually prefer crane but I called comp and he suggested the xr 276 - 224/230 @.50 510/510 lift. This will be my first hydraulic roller. I feel that the lift is unusually small for a roller cam but this is the one the man suggested. I don't care for high lift cams anyway due to the valve train geometry problems that can arrise. I'll go with roller tip rockers and performer intake. I have a stock 750 quadrajet that will be reworked. I have AC and power steering. my intent is to maintain matching numbers and generate around 350 to 375 hp. I seem to like what Pat has to say about 396/402 engines.
i think you will be happy with you 402 your cam sound very close to the cam that i will run in my 402 build. you sound like it .you on the right track. to me the low lift cam will work good make sure there is no junk in the head chamber floor so you get a good flow
Why limit yourself to a 396/402.Why not find a 454 block and build a 496.I think you should be able to buy a Scat (cast steel crank) for about $300.The Hypereutectic pistons are about $250.Buy a hyd. cam with about 230 of duration at .050 on the intake and 240 on the exhaust.Keep the lift at .550 or less.Find a set of 781 install 2.19/1.88 valves,bowl blend gasket match,RPM performer,750 vac. carb.Install a 3,000 converter,run a 3.73 gear.Have some fun.Quote:
Originally posted by mad hooker
heys guys, im planing on getting a 396 for my el camino. probably around summer. my goals are for the engine are to pump out 450-500 horse power and as much torque i can get, how hard would it be to push a 396 to my power limits? and about how much would it cost? say if i start with a block and build up? also i want to run average to low comp, so i can run this engine on pump gas, for a street driven engine, what else would i have to run to get those numbers?
i think i said that one page 1:confused:Quote:
Originally posted by erik erikson
Why limit yourself to a 396/402.Why not find a 454 block and build a 496.I think you should be able to buy a Scat (cast steel crank) for about $300.The Hypereutectic pistons are about $250.Buy a hyd. cam with about 230 of duration at .050 on the intake and 240 on the exhaust.Keep the lift at .550 or less.Find a set of 781 install 2.19/1.88 valves,bowl blend gasket match,RPM performer,750 vac. carb.Install a 3,000 converter,run a 3.73 gear.Have some fun.
Why,yes you did.I am always a day late and a dollar short.:)Quote:
Originally posted by pat mccarthy
i think i said that one page 1:confused:
erik you are a very lucky man if you are just a dollar short:LOL:Quote:
Originally posted by erik erikson
Why,yes you did.I am always a day late and a dollar short.:)
O.K.,so I am more than a dollar short.Have you priced new 5-axis CNC machines as of late?Quote:
Originally posted by pat mccarthy
erik you are a very lucky man if you are just a dollar short:LOL:
no i am trying to buy a used boring mill:CRY: and do not have the money for that. i do not think i could buy one end mill for that machine:HMMM:Quote:
Originally posted by erik erikson
O.K.,so I am more than a dollar short.Have you priced new 5-axis CNC machines as of late?
hey pat, keep me updated on your 402 build, id like to see what you use.
it will be on the fast track now may be laid up for a time need to get it to gether for the moneyQuote:
Originally posted by mad hooker
hey pat, keep me updated on your 402 build, id like to see what you use.
I'm going with a new auburn series3 with a 3:42 gear set. I have had 3:73 in the past and there is quite a difference between a 3:42 and 3:73 on the highway. You are all right about a 496. I should build one especially in a large monte. The reason why am not is simple... i don't like alot of stuff in my garage and it would mean another eng on a stand that is in my way. Besides, I've been down the drag racing"sickness" road before. It never stops, the need to go faster that is. I used to race a 69 firebird in the late 80's that went 12:70's. I was never satisfied. I aspired to go faster and quicker. The next thing you know, you have a roll bar 3500 converter, 850 double pumper, blue pump, 4:56 rear, hacked up A/C, with too much chrome, huge wingnut valve covers, and you look like everyone else. This is the end result, not to mention that you are $$$out, still not the quickest street car at the track, and can't even drive it on the highway. I like to keep things looking somewhat stock, ie the whole eng painted orange, with a cool sound and consistent e.t.'s of high 13 range. It's nice to have a sleeper that blows cold air!!!! Chevys are new to me. So far, I like them. I used to build pontiacs... good motors but can be expensive to build.
do not for get it will run 13 with the air on:LOL:
hey pat , i was wondering, how come you only recomend a roller cam over others?