I thought we found the solution tonight, but it didn't end up that way. We removed the 3 torque convertor to flexplate bolts and spun the convertor while it was up touching the flexplate, there was no resistance at all, it spun as if it wasn't connected to the pump inside the trans. Then I turned the TC while applying pressure to the rear and it dropped back 3/16 of an inch and seated into something, and there was resistance when you turned it by hand.

I think the guy from B and M said there should be no more than 1/16 inch between the TC and flexplate when installed, so that the bolts only pull it up that far and not out of the pump lugs. So we made up some 3/16 shims to go between the TC and flexplate and bolted it back up. Started the engine, and still not pumping anything or engaging any gears.

So, possibly running it without it being engaged damaged the pump. I think I remember seeing round plates that go between a flexplate and the crank flange, and maybe that is what we omitted originally. In any event, we don't want to even see the car for a while, until we feel like pulling the body and getting the trans out so we can take it to a shop.

This car hobby is SO much fun.

Thanks again to all who offered help.

Don