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    Keep us up to date and post some pictures as you make progress.

    You might want to consider removing a leaf or two if you are building a fenderless high boy. Model A Fords had the ride of a brick in their original form due to the poor roads of that period .
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    Does the Winters unit include better axles than the stock A rear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Shillady
    Does the Winters unit include better axles than the stock A rear?

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    The Winters quick change axles are significantly stronger then the stock A's
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    Hi all

    I am planning to remove 2 or 3 of the upper leafs and if the stock spring don’t work out I will have a new made up according to my specifications.

    The Championship Winters quick change is strong with a 10 inch ring gear and 31 spline Ford axles. Maybe overkill in a light roadster but I`m running a 452 Hemi………..
    See link below.

    http://www.wintersperformance.com/ca...ars/021024.htm

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    Hi all

    I am planning to remove 2 or 3 of the upper leafs and if the stock spring don’t work out I will have a new made up according to my specifications.

    The Championship Winters quick change is strong with a 10 inch ring gear and 31 spline Ford axles. Maybe overkill in a light roadster but I`m running a 452 Hemi………..

    http://www.wintersperformance.com/ca...ars/021024.htm

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    Hi

    Just last night I found that Posies sell a shortened super slide rear spring for the Model A.
    It is designed for a spring perch C/L to C/L distance of 62 ½ inch
    This is exactly what I need so I ordered on of this springs last night.
    Hopefully I will have it here in Norway next week.

    The Winters Championship Quick Change have 10” ring gear and 31 spline Ford Axles.
    Maybe overkill for a light roadster, but I am running a 452 Hemi…….
    I tried to post a link to the Winters catalog here but never managed to do it.
    So a picture will have to do.

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    The mounts are, eye to eye, on an A rear end is 46"

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    Finally some progress pictures

     



    Hi all

    Here is finally a picture of the rear axle with model A spring mounted on the frame as requested by IC2.
    This is only a mock-up, to see that everything lines up.

    I will post more pictures later if you are interested.

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    More pictures

     



    Hi again

    Here is a picture of the car with front suspension, body and mock-up engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 452 Hemi
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    Just last night I found that Posies sell a shortened super slide rear spring for the Model A.
    It is designed for a spring perch C/L to C/L distance of 62 ½ inch
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    Looks like you're doing well on your project, just one thing though.

    Not to pick nits on you, but sometimes these threads are used for future reference by others. That figure of 62 1/2" for the hangers seems to be a typo. Looking at the way your tires fit to the body and eye-balling the wheel offset, I'd bet your whole rear axle assembly from mounting flange to mounting flange isn't over 57". Could you verify what you ultimately did?

    I've got the Posie 29-31 R-C spring and my hangers are 44 3/4" hanger center to hanger center. Sorry I didn't answer your question when you first did the thread, but I was in Vegas and the car is here in Washington.
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    Hi again

    CL-CL on my spring hangers are 46 1/2".

    Sorry for the mixup...................

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    I spent a fair amount of time around a Model A repair and restoration shop and the one thing I remember about those springs is they wouldn't even attempt to install one without the spreader tool.

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    As I recall there were several different Model A springs and the high arch one that is in the Speedway calaloge is much stronger than the almost flat spring that was stock on the original roadster model. Of course you need to space the shackels for the spring you use but you might consider removing one or two of the small upper leaves for a better ride. A lot of modern rods have a Ford 8" or 9" but that pumpkin looks dreadfully plain compared to a banjo quick change. You can't even put a dress up cover on the 8"/9" so on my 8" all I did was just paint it black! Some folks frown on the use of a "fake" quick change but if you have a real one you should flaunt it!

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    As I mentioned in my earlier post, I had a shortened main and second leaf made up for my '27. I just took the stock leaves to a spring shop and told them "make me one 3 inches shorter." That was an easy one day fix. 20 years ago I paid them $ 18 to do it, but I just did the same thing on my '39 Dodge front spring and it cost $ 120 this time!! But it solved my problem, so it was worth it.

    Just a thought.

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