getting a title in california

Since January 2004 california's new law forces any unregistered vehicle that has fallen off the books to become registered as 2005 that is subject to all the laws that a 2005 vehicle is subject to. Of course this is unexceptable and I'm hoping someone on this forum has found a way around this situation. I have a 1950 Ford F1 pickup that has VIN tag and and black and yellow plates. One of the reasons I purchased this vehicle was becuase the seller assured me he had a pink slip. What he mailed me was an application for duplicate pink. That's when I went to DMV and found out what this new law is. Any assistance anyone has will be greatly appreciated, otherwise I will be forced to make the seller take the truck back and I would rather keep it. But if I can't register it then I can't use it. HELP

get the duplicate pink asap, then drive to
a small town dmv they will probably register
it as smog excempt. :D

But what if they don't? Then I'm really up shit crick without a paddle.......I used to have a 57 Bel Air just like that. Was the first frmae off I did years ago. My ex's father still has the son of a bitch. I loved that car, should never have let him have it. Thanks for the input

if they don't they have to tell you how then you
need a good smogger to sign it off its an old car
there should not be to much problem. as long as
it burns clean it will pass. but it probably will not
get this far.most dmv i go to would register it as
long as the numbers on the vin come clean.:3dSMILE:

I already went to the dmv and they would not register it as anything but a 2005. they told me themselves that the new law would require that I have to have safty bumbers, cat converters, drivers side airbag etc etc. I don't know when the last time you went to DMV without a pink and it had fallen off the books was but that's how it is now. They are actually trying to get all the old cars off the streets. It sucks

Kevin i called 1-800-777-0133 they said if you run the
vin and it shows it was registered at any time then there
would be no problem,if there is a problem with your dmv
call another get one that is on your side.
the number above is for calif. dmv they said if it was ever
'
registered there would be no problem.:D

No shit? Hey it can't hurt, maybe it's just my local guys are giving me a problem. I'll call and see, thanks for the help. I'll let you know how it goes.

If you can't get it registered there, you could always move to Wisconsin.:LOL:

ow heck ya can alway move to arizona Or come down and get a po box here license here then relicense it in cal

or you could do it for me and I'll pay you for your time.

Kevin do what I did when I lived in Barstow. I got a PO box in Vegas so I could title my camaro there to keep the tinted windows, and it wouldn't pass the Cali safety inspection. That is if you can't get around it the other way. Then once its titled there you should be able to transfer it over to cali as you will have a title.

That's another idea, I jsu don't know if I am willing to go to those kind of lengths. If it's to much hassle I'll just make the seller take it back.

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Originally posted by kevinhog
That's another idea, I jsu don't know if I am willing to go to those kind of lengths. If it's to much hassle I'll just make the seller take it back.

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How do you make a seller take it back? I never take back anything I sell unless it's traded for something more expensive.
You could drag him in to court but you would probably lose. It depends on what's written on the bill of sale not what he said before you paid him.
Check out www.broadwaytitle.com They say they can get you a title in 6 to 10 days.

OOPS! I just looked at their website and it says they can't do California cars. So registering it yourself in another state may be your only option.

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Originally posted by kevinhog
Since January 2004 california's new law forces any unregistered vehicle that has fallen off the books to become registered as 2005 that is subject to all the laws that a 2005 vehicle is subject to. Of course this is unexceptable and I'm hoping someone on this forum has found a way around this situation. I have a 1950 Ford F1 pickup that has VIN tag and and black and yellow plates. One of the reasons I purchased this vehicle was becuase the seller assured me he had a pink slip. What he mailed me was an application for duplicate pink. That's when I went to DMV and found out what this new law is. Any assistance anyone has will be greatly appreciated, otherwise I will be forced to make the seller take the truck back and I would rather keep it. But if I can't register it then I can't use it. HELP

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I just had a friend in Harbor City that reg a 60 Rambler he brought in from Co. with no plates and all they made him do was bring the car down so they could check the vin...... he didn't need to show smog or insurance and they gave him the plates this was about 2 or 3 months ago
I say find another DMV........ most the time if you ask 6 different DMV employes a qusetion you'll get at least 5 1/2 different answers sometimes maybe 7 :LOL:

MM64 :cool:

There is a guy in the back of "Rod & Custom" with an ad that reads, "Vintage titles, buy sell trade. I'm gonna give hima shot. I called yesterday but missed their call back.
As for making the guy take it back. We work at the same place and there are a lot of dealings that take place there. He wonm't want the word to get around that he's a dirty dealer. Of course there are other manners of persuasion besides the courts. He'll either pay for then apaerwork that I have to procure or he WILL take it back. Those will be his only choices.

I just an E-mail to SEMA on this asking for clarification.
This is crazy**)

I can,t take it no more excuse me If I offend any one It bunches up my panty when I here these california law maker making up bullshit laws every time ya turn a round someone ether trying to save my life or their trying to destroy our history . Ok I don t mind if Im being treated like a second class citizen by having to go out side to smoke . But when they start telling people you have to lic a classic a 2005 Im sorry a 1955 is not a 2005 any way you look at it to me it just another ploy to get more emissions money and thats bullshit It just goes to show they would rather us crush a culcher then let us restore it if It sound like Im picking on california your right they start al these B.S. laws and the rest of the states like a lost puppy follow again I am sorry If I offended any one Reading these post trying to help this guy so he can drive and enjoy his classic that hes work so hard to get and he cant just pisses me off and I just had to get it of my chest thanks I fill better now!:( :rolleyes: :p

I'm just offended that more people aren't offended.

Looks like I may have found a way to get it done threough one of the title companies and having a friendly lister in Pennsilvania. He can get the truck registered there and then sell it to me. Big pain in the ass but what else ya gonna do?

I here ya good luck hope your cruzing soon

CALIFORNIA SUCKS! I for one am getting tired of helping pay for all of the bullshit nonsense that comes from that garbage dump.

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I already went to the dmv and they would not register it as anything but a 2005. they told me themselves that the new law would require that I have to have safty bumbers, cat converters, drivers side airbag etc etc. I don't know when the last time you went to DMV without a pink and it had fallen off the books was but that's how it is now. They are actually trying to get all the old cars off the streets. It sucks

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I know this is probably an old post but having lived in California and registered vehicles there and running around in the local Hot Rod crowd, I've heard that you can register under "Vintage" status. You'll have to take your vehicle to the local referee so that they can go over it.

That's my 2 cents and i'm stickin 2 it.:whacked:

Not having lived there for sometime the only alternative that I could suggest would be to have someone out of state register it in your name there then transfer it to Cali. But that is mucho deniero and highly agin the rules.:CRY:

Boy I'm glad i live up here in Washington now:3dSMILE:

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I'm just offended that more people aren't offended.

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The reason that noone is offended is the bvery same reason these laws were enacted.

The rattle trap crowd.

Big smoking POS cars and trucks that are falling apart around the driver's ears.

Unfortunately who pays for it?

The vintage and classic car crowd.

Let's not forget all the wonderful car runs that have been shut down due to excessive "cruising" through residential neighborhoods. Does anyone remember what happened to "Graffiti Night" in Modesto?

Well before I left Cali they stopped it entirely because a bunch of idiots going through private neighborhoods causing mayhem and all sorts of mischief.

I don't know if they're running it again though. I hope they figured out a way to bring it back.:confused:

I guess the correct thing to do would be to lobby Governor Arnold.

I mean here this guy is a BIG Automotive/Biker hound and Cali passes a blanket law that is completely unfair to us hobby hounds.

What you oughtta do is write Jay Leno and Tim Allen. These guys probably have the biggest collections. They have also been Middle Class car nuts. If anyone could start the ball rolling to fix the law it would be someone like these two guys.

Shiite Leno owns a Firetruck turned into a HotRod.

Anyway laws can be fixed and changed but it takes someone fed up with the problem to cause change.

I suggest everyone re-read post #6 . . .

Kevin: I recently registered my 29 Ford in Long Beach, Cal without a pinkslip. The truck has been out of the system for many many years. I believe the last time it was registered was probably in the 50’s. All I had was a bill of sale and a VIN on the frame. I started with a title company and got the run around, but they got it done. I filled out a duplicate pink request and took it to the CHP who verified the VIN, make and model. They added a new VIN plate to the firewall and signed off on it. I took the sign off to the title company, they sent in all the paper work into the DMV. I received my plates approx. 2 weeks later. The best of it was, the truck was just a rolling chassis and body. I thing I did learn is that each DMV office is different. One office will be up to date and follow the letter of the law, the next will not. If one office will not meet your needs, then go to another. If you do not like what one person says in that office talk to another in the same office. Good Luck.

I found a company that will sell me an original 1950 ford f1 pink slip and vin plate for 150 bucks. I think that might be the direction I go. AAlso found a title company that will make me paperwork out of state and then I will have to register it here. That service is 160 bucks plus I have to find sopmeone to do it for me out of state. I'm still researching the best way to go. Also got up the sellers ass to find that lost pink, don't expect that to happen though. He's gonna have to cough up what it costs me though. when I figure that out....

Believe me, I've thought often of leaving California, but it's only going to be different somewhere else for a short while. You can run but you can't hide. Sad part is, I'ma third generation "Angelino" as they say. My grandfather was one of the contractors that helped build this city at the trun of the century. I remember a much different California that the one we have today.
Look what they've done to my town Ma.....

...yeah, & speaking of guns? The ban on assult weapons ended a couple of days ago ;)... 90 round magazines again? COOL! Bill......

livining here in this great state of ca i feel your pain. the dmv that is another story. i have used flagstaff az to geat few cars on the road. tip, you dont have to go there. download the forms, use your local police to do a vin check, send the paper work back so on so on. the trick is to use your home in ca as a mailing address. pick some AZ apt building address off the net.... as your az home... pain in the... but it works...

feb this year i got a 49 dodge wayfarer coupe, had the local popo come over to my shop and do a vin check. i had no paper work for the car and was not sure what year it was. ca dmv gave me a set of plates and a title, this took over 2 months and 45.00 later.

the local kids down the street wanted to use the car as a hot rod project,long story short, knowing i will never see any money out of the deal.... the kids brought me a 2 cases of beer... missing a few beers out of the cases... bet there father is pissed....