I can't find the post at all right now. But the guy used lye (drano) and water, then heated it or left it out on a warm day to degrease the parts. Works great and then after it's washed, paints on just fine. I wasn't quite sure HCl would be a good way to go.... now that I'm at least semi awake.... def. a dumb idea. Though I am going to go pick up soem Drano to do it. Engine degreaser is just to expensive to use right now, cause I'd need to use it in larger quantities. Any recommendations or alternatives? I'm going to use a metal net to hold the parts while they "cook" No rubber parts at all. Unless they are goign to be rebuilt. I'll continue looking for the article too