32 Coupe Bodies

Remember that they are selling them and that's a sales pitch.


As things have progressed over the years, adding more caster to the front for steering stability, steering effort goes up and with cross steering from a vega box, the force needed to turn the wheels increased to a level that the panard bar was/is a help to get the car to turn without twist on the shackles. lots of steering problems came about with the big/little tire combos, especially with errors introduced with narrow wheels severly offset to outside for big brake clearance. The line of the kingpin should intercect the middle of tire patch to pavement contact point.

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Originally Posted by jerry clayton

Remember that they are selling them and that's a sales pitch.

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It's hard to argue with their Point #2. If you have cross steering and allow the axle to move side to side then as the axle moves the wheels turn - not a good situation.

HotRodN, when you go to pick up your body & frame ask Duane if you need to run a panhard bar with an I-beam axle and Vega Box. He's selling you a bare frame with the body mounted, not a roller so he's got nothing to lose either way. You can trust his answer.

Roger with the vega box I use panard bar


Why? accepted practice------I bought an alighnment rack to do suspension work on so I could verify where things were and how they would work together. With a properly designed, built and adjusted with angles for caster, camber, toe, included angle( angle of steering pivot line to tire contact patch) the front axle and wheels will go straight and you will have to use some amount of physical force to change direction of the wheels to turn the vehicle.


Most of the street rods out there have imperfect designs or set up of the steering geometry to vehicle .

Hmmm. I was hanging in there on hair pin vs four bar comparison and then panhard bar as a lateral location device, but the "sales pitch" comment just doesn't fit in the explanation. Brings to my mind the demise of Tom Horn. The man just said too much. LOL.

Hairpins and I beam = Hot Rod
4 bar and tube = Street Rod.

So could 4 bar and I beam equal Hot Street Rod lol. Hope to go up to N & N by the 20th for a visit.

4 bar and forged I beam is what I use

Yep that's the way I'm going,,,, so another question,,, I have a front end from another project I could possibly use (and most likely will use if it don't sell soon) and the perch to perch length is 48",,, from what I understand the norm is 46",,, anyone see an issue with the wider front axle???

Well looks like the trip to N&N is going to have to wait until the 25th,,, this weekend is Dad's day,,, not that I expect my kiddoes to come see me but what the heck,,,, still chomping at the bit to see his shop and a peek at my build,,, so hang in there ya'll once it's here I'll start a new build thread,,, later group,,,,

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Yep that's the way I'm going,,,, so another question,,, I have a front end from another project I could possibly use (and most likely will use if it don't sell soon) and the perch to perch length is 48",,, from what I understand the norm is 46",,, anyone see an issue with the wider front axle???

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I think you mean the kingpin to kingpin width is 48", not spring perch to perch.

There's no problem using the 48" axle. That's what I have on mine. It's only an extra inch outboard on each side. You'll never notice IMO. Make sure your brake lines have enough slack for full turns on each side!

But then again, my front end is a four bar so what do I know?

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/a...m/DSCF4694.jpg


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I would agree that the extra inch on each side wouldn't be as noticeable to most on a fenderless car, but could be a real issue on a fendered car depending on brake and wheel choices made.

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Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

I would agree that the extra inch on each side wouldn't be as noticeable to most on a fenderless car, but could be a real issue on a fendered car depending on brake and wheel choices made.

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Good point. I'm jumping to conclusions that his would be fenderless. Might be a bad assumption.

I sure would like to see some pics of your roadster Bob. Got any pics posted anywhere I could check out?


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I sure would like to see some pics of your roadster Bob. Got any pics posted anywhere I could check out?


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Here's a few albums, current stuff and older stuff that's gone; Albums for user: Uncle Bob | The H.A.M.B.

If you are specifically asking about the avatar then this thread here has more detail: http://www.clubhotrod.com/hot-rod-bu...ifference.html

And now, back to regular scheduled programing....................

Attachment 63931Attachment 63932Attachment 63933Finally made the trip up to N&N and what a pleasant surprise. They had the body sitting on the frame to view. I was under the impression they wouldn't start it till next week. It's not finished but far enough along I could a car coming to life.

I was very impressed with the work and getting to meet Duane and Scott. He's a real hoot,,, spent all the time with me I needed, and answered all my questions and did all this late in the afternoon as I didn't get there until around 4 that afternoon. He made sure I understood what goes into one of his bodies. We looked at the molds, talked about how the bodies are made,, covered a bunch of important details so I could have a better understanding of the whole process. Went over how the car was to be setup and what was left to be done. Man there is a lot of work into getting them to the rolling stage.

There were a few other cars to see that are nearer to completion and one that was completed less paint. The fit, finish and attention to detail was apparent in his work. He's had a lot of practice over the last 20 plus years doing this and it give me a lot of confidence in MY final product :))) There is still a lot to be done before I can pick it up,,,, time goes by sooo sllloooowww

I'm so pumped about this whole experience. Can't wait to go back to pick it up.

I want to take this opportunity to commend you on following through on your dream and apparently paying attention to all the well intentioned advice you've gotten here (and perhaps elsewhere?). Not that those who share their experience want/need validation, but rather that you have the good sense to not come on here, ask advice, and then kick back when it doesn't validate your initial impressions. You've made a valuable (to you) turnaround from where this post began. I'm pleased for you.

That will be such a nice rod! If I sell a project, I'm really considering getting one of his bodies and frames.

After seeing these photos and photos of Roger's '34, I'm almost willing to strip everything off my '34 rolling chassis and have Duane put one of his bodies on it. Almost.

Guy's I can't say enough about Duane and his crew of only a few,,,, top shelf people. I'm so jacked up and ready to get back to Ar it ain't funny. The attention to detail,,, fit & finish I saw on the other cars he had there for this beginner was top shelf. I really like that he does not use a chopper gun and his staff hand lays the material from sheet. I pulled and pushed in several areas and this is one strong body. I'm not a weak or small guy LOL. He showed me a car where a guy had backed into a metal building hitting it with the back corner of the car below the trunk lid and it was barely noticeable. From what I understand the building didn't fair so well. Duane has taken every call I've made and shown a lot of patience. All the congrats goes to him. I know I've made a life ling friend.

Keep ya posted on the project. Will probably start a new build post once I have it home.
HotRodN