Beauty in the eyes of the beholder-the Howadrs crank

Well I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.The Howards Track Smart 4340 crank came today for my 383 build.Certainly one of the building blocks towards a rotating assembly.

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I am posting it here because I am wanting to be seen by you guys and I am excited/proud that I have gotten this pc.:D Going to have the machine shop completely check it out so I know it is 100%.

Admins/Mods-if you want to move it to the build thread after alittle bit-that would be OK.

That is a nice piece. I bet non car types look at us like we are nuts because we look at a chunk of metal and get all goofy about it. They have no idea what they are missing. :D

Don

i know how you feel. when i was changing my oil pan on the 472 i looked up into the engine and grinned from ear to ear. my hubby thought that i had lost it completely. :)

Nice parts are like jewelry to us. Women will never understand.

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Originally Posted by Smiliesafari

Nice parts are like jewelry to us. Women will never understand.

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That is so true......Maybe I should have titled this thread"Gary's Bling".LOL.

Oh man Skip your going to get me in trouble again.


Barb knows.

Sorry Barb.I'll be good.:o Didn't mean what I said.Please forgive me.See,see Skip made me................;):LOL::LOL:

Very nice, but there's a little nick on the second journal - Naw -just kiddin!!

who did you get that from???
Looks like it weighs 53 lbs 7 1/2 oz(since its a 2 pc rear seal maybe a bit more!!!

Competition Products Jerry.58LBS.Said on the box if you balance it-you own it.It takes "H" bearings,needs a seal adapter,and a 2 pc seal flexplate.

yep--I balanced a crank from there yesterday and another one today--

IF------you have a block(late model) that uses the seal adapter for one piece seal and you want to use a 2 pc seal crank(larger bolt pattern for flywheel) and 2 pc seal pan---I have billet alum ones that I bought from K-Tech--just in case you can't find otherwise-----

Cool.I want to get the rods next(in two wks) and then see where I end up.I might be looking you up after that.

I do know the Scat rods are 595g.The Icon pistons I don't know.Callies does the machine work for Howards which is own by Competition products.Jerry which H/B'er did you use.Personally I like Fluidampr which I have used in the past.They certainly a PITA to get on.

Is this going to be a race engine where you need a sfi dated one???

I don't like fluid damper but i won't go into why because it would look like i was slammin them

I like the ATIs but they are ass holes to try to get say a ford pulley for 3 bolts --they use chev 3 bolt pattern which is like .050 off so you have to machine the holes correctly

We have been using sone powermaster and bhj also

Okay,I'll be the dumb blonde,the chair looks cool but what is that bend bit of iron on it do????:D:D

street driver.. damper the ATI are nice but you will be pulling it off to put new O rings in it. romac dampers are some of the best that do not need to be rebuilt most street stuff gets power bond or romac . the more race and all out race get ATI s i know of 3 things why i do not like fluid dampers . but i still have one :)

Well guys I surely would love to hear your in depth opinions on Fluidampr.

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Well guys I surely would love to hear your in depth opinions on Fluidampr.

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nope i take the Hi road on this. i seen somethings that were scary.i not going to get in to it on a open forum ..but Jerry can if he wants ?

Pat-a PM then.

Jerry-how many pcs of Mallory did you need to use??.What bob wt did you use??.

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yep--I balanced a crank from there yesterday and another one today--

IF------you have a block(late model) that uses the seal adapter for one piece seal and you want to use a 2 pc seal crank(larger bolt pattern for flywheel) and 2 pc seal pan---I have billet alum ones that I bought from K-Tech--just in case you can't find otherwise-----

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I've balanced 4 different 383s since this started and all the bob wts were 1700 +- 20 grams

The one piece seal cranks are internal front external rear needing a weighted flywheel/flexplate

the 2 piece seal are internal front and rear and none of them needed any mallory---the scat and callies cranks have drilled rod journals which make them easy to balance without adding weight---does the howard have a big hole drilled thru the middle of the journals???

The GM seal adapter you need is #10051118 plus seal, gasket and bolts/dowel pins

I haven't got to the K teck ones yet

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Originally Posted by jerry clayton

I've balanced 4 different 383s since this started and all the bob wts were 1700 +- 20 grams

The one piece seal cranks are internal front external rear needing a weighted flywheel/flexplate

the 2 piece seal are internal front and rear and none of them needed any mallory---the scat and callies cranks have drilled rod journals which make them easy to balance without adding weight---does the howard have a big hole drilled thru the middle of the journals???

The GM seal adapter you need is #10051118 plus seal, gasket and bolts/dowel pins

I haven't got to the K teck ones yet

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Yes the Howards does have big holes.Callies does the machine work for Howards which is owned by Competition Products.

No doubt about it-I am going to want the K tech.Send a PM to me.Mean while I will be gathering the rods,bearings,H/B etc.

what rods and pistons are you looking for--Corey probably has them on the shelf---I know there's 25-30 sets of pistons out there and dozens of sets of rods?????

I have Icon's -18 dished already and I want 4340 Scat I beam's with 7/16's ARPs.Part number SCR5A7 floaters that match up with the pistons,.

Gary--clean out your PM box so messages can come thru

We have those rods at a better price than CP and also if you need dog bones and holddown for roller lifters we have reclaimed ones from our core supplier(used)

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