mini bike frame

[BigTruckDriver]

Mini bikes and hot rods go together right. I found another project for the kids and I . I found a old minibike bare frame for 25 dollars that I want to get going for the kids. I have a small problem though. The frame seems to have got some water in the tube that supports the motor. I does not look that bad to me but will pretty much be impossible to tell over the internet the integrity of the tubes. I want to make some kind of wire brush with a extension on it to send in down the tubes and clean any rust in the interior of the tubes. Then fill the tubes with some type of rust converter/primer. Tap the cracks shut and weld and finish. I guess best would be to cut some tubing in half and weld some pieces in over the cracked area. Then I want to wire brush the frame and put some naval jelly on it to take care of the surface rust and paint. Any ideas on this project are welcomed. Thanks

[JKFlash]

Nice find! I still have my dad's Sears mini bike. Still runs too, just isnt too quick with my 300+lb body on it! Haha!

[rspears]

Looks like those tubes that drop down below the engine are open at the back ends. I don't think I would worry about trying to get a brush inside, but if you're worried about internal rust you could maybe thin down some rust encapsulating paint a bit, pour a cup in the tube and turn it every which way to coat the inside and then dump out the extra. That would be after pounding the cracks together and welding them up. The pipes that are sealed both ends and no cracks should be fine, right?

Great find for $25, BTW!

[BigTruckDriver]

Thanks
From what I have found out is that its a RUPP "Continental" from the late 60's. Great its older then I thought.
What would be best to refinish the paint? I was going to use some type of rust converter on the rust and sand, not taking off as much of the original paint if I dont have too. I am stuck with rattle cans though. Heres a pic of 2 bikes thats been restore. Pretty basic bike , but thats a good thing IMO.

[Itoldyouso]

Very cool little project. About 8 months ago I, for some reason I can't explain. got a hankering to build a mini bike. Found a frame on Craigslist for $ 50, replaced every part on it from an on line mini bike company, and bought a 6.5 hp motor from Harbor Freight. Sprayed it bright yellow, and even put a new seat on it. I took it for a quick spin and it scares me to death, so it just sits, collecting dust now. I came to the realization that at 65 it wasn't as much fun as the one I owned when I was 12.

If you need any parts, this is the place I bought mine at. Nice people and they carry most everything mini bike related.

Go Kart & Mini Bike Parts

Don

At least my Son got some use out of it.

[Mark in Memphis]

Don

You've got to have a picture with smoke coming off the back tire. Cmon!

[rspears]

Thanks
From what I have found out is that its a RUPP "Continental" from the late 60's. Great its older then I thought.
What would be best to refinish the paint? I was going to use some type of rust converter on the rust and sand, not taking off as much of the original paint if I dont have too. I am stuck with rattle cans though. Heres a pic of 2 bikes thats been restore. Pretty basic bike , but thats a good thing IMO.

BigTruckDriver,
When you say you want to "...not take off as much of the original paint...." do you mean you want to keep the old patina, making it look its age; or do you mean that you don't want to strip it to bare metal before painting? If you're wanting to refinish the frame like those in the pictures just sand it smooth, and get a primer and finish color from Krylon or Rustoleum. A metal etching primer would be a bonus if they have it. Rattle can paint is very thin to atomize through that small orifice, so you need to put on three or four thin coats at each step to get a good coat of finish.

[BigTruckDriver]

BigTruckDriver,
When you say you want to "...not take off as much of the original paint...." do you mean you want to keep the old patina, making it look its age; or do you mean that you don't want to strip it to bare metal before painting? If you're wanting to refinish the frame like those in the pictures just sand it smooth, and get a primer and finish color from Krylon or Rustoleum. A metal etching primer would be a bonus if they have it. Rattle can paint is very thin to atomize through that small orifice, so you need to put on three or four thin coats at each step to get a good coat of finish.

Thanks for the input guys.
Itoldyouso= your a dare devil,lol. 6.5hp, that motors HUGE. The bike looks beautiful though.
Rspears= No I dont want the original patina , I just didnt want to strip it too bare metal as you said. After taking it apart though I think stripping it would be best.

[billy zz]

i treated the floor and bed of my 63 willys jeep with POR .
then painted it with farm implement paint.
it worked just fine.
POR left expsoed to sunlight turns an odd grey color.
that stuff is tough!

[glennsexton]

Just saw this thread - great find on the old Rupp frame. Had several mini-bikes in the 60's - what a blast. I once built a mini-bike with a MAC 101 (two stroke racing cart engine) and that thing would flat out scream - but oh the front end wobble with those little tires!!

By the way, the cracks are caused by water getting inside the frame and freezing (just like a pipe in your house!). I've fixed several of them and you need to know that you can blow right through the tubing if you're not real careful. Of course, my experience was using a Lincoln arc welder and i probably had it set a wee bit to high!

a 3-5 HP Briggs is perfect for these buggers. If kids are going to be primary riders, I'd stay closer to a three horse and keep the final drive a bit higher or they'll launch like a Nike-Zeus rocket. If adults ride a five is okay with a bit more gear through the jack-shaft as we tend to have the "bulk" required to keep the front end down...

Have fun and let us see the results!
Glenn

[Dave Severson]

After looking at the frame pics, not so sure it wouldn't be best to just replace the cracked sections with some new tube and internal slugs to help hold things together.... Hate to see it break there, underpower with a rider on it!!!!

[cffisher]

Built one of these for my boys some 40+ years ago.. Wife got peed off cause I did it. The boys loved it then she got on it to go down the street a cop stoped her hahaha. He told her she should know better.

[techinspector1]

Built one of these for my boys some 40+ years ago.. Wife got peed off cause I did it. The boys loved it then she got on it to go down the street a cop stoped her hahaha. He told her she should know better.

.........kharma......

[Matt167]

I have a TC 100 frame, have a vintage B&S 3.5hp ( model 5S 1953 serial number ) engine that I want to rebuild for it, but I'v wanted to for the last 10 years. just no time

[BigTruckDriver]

I got the bulges tapped down and welded up. The straight one was no problem the one on the bend was a little harder, but I think they will do. Luckily , and what has probably save the frame all these years is the use of shocks on the frame.
Time to start with painting the frame. Looks like it has enamel paint on it.

Before welding


This one was a little harder due to the bend and thinner material at the bend. I had to stick a screwdriver in the slot because the metal in the middle of the crack wanted to fall below the other edge before it got into position, and I ended up with a gap. I tacked the crack up and added more material in the area.


Welded up.