How NOT to repair rust out...

...in the bottom of the quarter panel.

A couple months ago I picked up this '30 A coupe near Sacramento. I could see that it had some cobby rust repair at the bottom of the front portion of the quarter where most Model A coupes have an issue, but happily I didn't see any sign at the cowl bottoms and doors. I'd already done a quick zip with a disc to verify the cowl and doors at thier bottoms and sure enough they were good. All along I thought the bottoms of the quarters would be a mass of mud. The bottoms of the wheel wells were just the normal lace that forms between the sub rails and the outer panel. Once I get the new sub rails done I'm thinking I might make these wheel well panels follow a similar line to the wheel wells of a '32 since I'll be putting this body on a '32 frame, we'll see. I just got the patch panels for the quarters, and as expected they'll need a little work to get the right shape, but considering how bad some of them are, these look pretty decent. Anyway, in the first pic you can see that the "rust repair" in the quarters wasn't mud at all.........just a bunch of passes with the welder.:rolleyes: Still looks like what I would imagine Rosie O'Donnel's thighs must look like.:eek: Happily, the rest of the quarter panel looks as nice as I had anticipated.

Looks to be a nics project there Bob

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Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

...in the bottom of the quarter panel.

Rosie O'Donnel's thighs must look like.:eek: Happily, the rest of the quarter panel looks as nice as I had anticipated.

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:LOL::LOL: You should said you were down here, we could had a beer or two in my messy garage...

Think that qualifies as fugly!!!!

Hey Unc,

Where did you find room to fit this one? Did you build another addition?:LOL::cool:

Jack.

hell how did he get the Bird to poop in a some what strait line .hell bob over all looks like like a EZ fix it will make a very good body

Rich, you and Pat both, the car was in Auburn. I was "on a mission", drive into town, load all the pieces (it was all blown apart) on the trailer, and hit the road again. Silly way to be, but I rationalize it as "being focused on the task at hand".:whacked:

Jack, it's in that tweener area between the front and back shops. Between all the pieces for this and the stuff I've been buying to spin the shop looks like a war zone. Falconvan would be very happy................:D

I'm concerned that you are admitting to "imagine Rosie O'Donnels thighs"

Bob, there are doctors that can treat this syndrome.....no guy doing a car
should look at metal that is that gross.

Refer to the Arkansas gas chamber picture...you'll snap out of it.

mike

That thing looks sweet to me, around here they give you a couple sheets of 18ga with any body purchase. We have more serious rust problems in just the dash!
Just joking, congratulations, that will make for a really great project. Whats' your plans for it? Traditional Doane-ish or more contemporary? I vote traditional.

Here's one (a 40 Chevy) as found on Ebay that you might want to consider Uncle Bob. Needs a little work, but really not too bad: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...E:B:EF:US:1120

Like John Candy said in "planes, trains, and automobiles":

"that should buff out"

HE! HE! HE! I guess some guys idea of rust repair is a little differant then some of our idea's of rust repair. HE! HE! HE! I guess he was not scared of warping the panel either.
I am sure the wet rag treatment ain't gonna help that one though!!! Here is wishing you luck fixing those.
Kurt

Nice bit of body repair Bob :eek:
That looks quite a tidy body, wish we found them like that in england, there is usually more rust than steel :LOL:

Now come on Uncle Bob, a good squirt of high build primer and some spot putty will have that looking good in no time.:D Now where does this project fit in with the roadster?? And as Steve mentioned, we down here couldn't find a body in that condition ever.:CRY:

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Originally Posted by roadster32

Nice bit of body repair Bob :eek:
That looks quite a tidy body, wish we found them like that in england, there is usually more rust than steel :LOL:

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yep that is a fine body roadster 32 i am sure you get rust but have you seen any thing from the rust belt up here in mich any body man thats done body work up here full time for more then 10 years can fix rust some are a pros at it . some are addicted to alcohol or drugs or nuts or all 3 from it to. i did some work on a 34 willys and two anglias were so bad i cross pull the body back in a shape so i could build car around a roof line and many more so the stuff up here is never that nice

Aww, you guys in MoochiGan got it easy! Why all we had to build an anglia out of was the shadow and a rusted bolt!

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Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

yep that is a fine body roadster 32 i am sure you get rust but have you seen any thing from the rust belt up here in mich any body man thats done body work up here full time for more then 10 years can fix rust some are a pros at it . some are addicted to alcohol or drugs or nuts or all 3 from it to. i did some work on a 34 willys and two anglias were so bad i cross pull the body back in a shape so i could build car around a roof line and many more so the stuff up here is never that nice

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Originally Posted by ojh

Aww, you guys in MoochiGan got it easy! Why all we had to build an anglia out of was the shadow and a rusted bolt!

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yep i think one of them did come from VA you guy s could not fix it :D

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Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

yep i think one of them did come from VA you guy s could not fix it :D

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:whacked::D:):eek::rolleyes::LOL::3dSMILE:;)

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Originally Posted by ojh

That thing looks sweet to me, around here they give you a couple sheets of 18ga with any body purchase. We have more serious rust problems in just the dash!
Just joking, congratulations, that will make for a really great project. Whats' your plans for it? Traditional Doane-ish or more contemporary? I vote traditional.

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My computer took a dump, so Im working on my brides Ipad.........:mad:

Click the camera icon under my name and you'll get a sense of my style choices. The closest Ive ever gotten to contemporary was 20 years ago with Weld wheels and billet mirrors on my '39 Chev.;)

I'm up in the air right now whether or not to bump the '28 roadster body off the chassis shown and put the coupe on that. We'll see.....

As for you guys used to rustier beginnings, that's why we westerners are spoiled!:D

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Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

Rich, you and Pat both, the car was in Auburn. I was "on a mission", drive into town, load all the pieces (it was all blown apart) on the trailer, and hit the road again. Silly way to be, but I rationalize it as "being focused on the task at hand".:whacked:

Jack, it's in that tweener area between the front and back shops. Between all the pieces for this and the stuff I've been buying to spin the shop looks like a war zone. Falconvan would be very happy................:D

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Bob, that was only 30 minutes from me, I could of met you there and helped you load it into my truck.....:D

Click the camera icon under my name and you'll get a sense of my style choices. The closest Ive ever gotten to contemporary was 20 years ago with Weld wheels and billet mirrors on my '39 Chev.;)

I had a looksee, beautiful. You are very talented and lucky to have some world class hot rods, that roadster on the duece rails will be hard to top.


As for you guys used to rustier beginnings, that's why we westerners are spoiled!:D[/QUOTE]

Yes, between rust and the crusher gobbling junk yards and farmers' castoffs to make room for urban sprawl our local resouces have near dried up. Theres' a lot of 'barn finds' and such but to go have look at a collection of tin and let your imagination run away with you is a thing of the past. I want to build a modified so bad that i am actually considering driving to Colorado to gather up an old Nash - just a rusted, clapped out tin touring car that nobody wants.

Well, this doesn't have anything to do with rust repair (didn't think it was worthy of a new thread), but yesterday I stripped the Model A seat. The cushions seemed awfully heavy the first time I picked them up, and now I know why. Below are pictures of the 5.....yes 5....layers of upholstery on the cushions. This car was only on the road for 31 years before going to the barn...............imagine how many more could have been layered on if it were active for the last 50 years!!!:LOL:

Bob,

You should save all of those covers and put them on Craigs List for the Rat Rodders.:whacked::3dSMILE:

Jack.

I think I might have some pics in my gallery like that.......

I was rather proud of my wire fed liquid fender repair......

I ground it down over and over and the front side looked pretty good overall.

Now I know that is more work than a repair panel would be.......I think that is a better option than mesh and bondo is......

I found what appered to be enuff screen for a storm door and what had to be 60 or 70 dollars worth of bondo on one section, I cant imagine how much in time and sand paper.......probably close to 100 bucks in materials.......the patch panel cost 35 bucks for that section.....:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by shawnlee28

I found what appered to be enuff screen for a storm door and what had to be 60 or 70 dollars worth of bondo on one section, I cant imagine how much in time and sand paper.......probably close to 100 bucks in materials.......the patch panel cost 35 bucks for that section.....:rolleyes:

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Not to hijack, but I saw a guy at the USN hobby shop garage working on a really nice Willys coupe - it had been smacked in back below the trunk, and he decided to just bondo it. Problem is the dent was about five inches deep, and two feet wide :eek: He put in a bunch of 1/2" carriage bolts to "anchor" the repair, and proceeded to build up a bondo "patch" filling the void. That guy must have put at least five gallons of bondo on that panel before they shot is competition orange. Looked fantastic, but not sure for how long.....:rolleyes:

Yeah, we had a car in for repair at the shop one time, ground out an old quarter panel repair..............................it had chunks of 2x4 in there for filler beneath the mud. Always a fun conversation with the insurance adjuster when they were loath to pay for an "upgrade" and we insisted on controlling what we put our name on. They ended up paying to replace the panel.

I was expecting window screen covered with bondo...

I can see why you grabbed that up. I see a lot of potential for a beautiful machine.
What color are you planning on, or are you leaving all thoughts of that until you've got the hard work finished?

Color choice is a ways off, but right now I'm thinking of colors close to original '30s Ford tones. Something in the brown, taupe, edging to grey/green or o.d. Whatever it will be I'm leaning to muted tones.

Maybe a subtle shade of "pink".:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

PURPLE damnit...............PURPLE


:LOL::LOL:

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Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

PURPLE damnit...............PURPLE


:LOL::LOL:

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You and "pops", quite a pair.:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

:LOL: Well, it sounds great. I can't wait to see when it's finished!

Hopefully we'll both live long enough.....................:HMMM:

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Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

Hopefully we'll both live long enough.....................:HMMM:

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You guys are too young to die and much too ornery.:eek::LOL::LOL: