Well guys thank you very much. I like to hear much of this. Tech inspector there is a 5degree anit dive built in on the upper control arms, Next The Camber issue is set at 3 degrees static with no shims, gains 3 degrees in 10 inches of travel. Now on my other front suspensions I build the instant center is almost asphalt height. I do know what you are talking about but Dont agree with some of the statments. But that is fine I did ask for your opinion and thank you for you thoughts. Now That is how i got started 4 years ago is with the mini truckers after building quite a few race cars professionally. Just to let you all know. LOl Thank you all again.