Thread: Boxing a frame
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12-30-2008 07:47 AM #1
Boxing a frame
I've been told that I should box the frame on my '67 Volvo P1800S. I know what that usually means (welding in a top piece to make the C-channel frame a box frame), but I've been told something else. The person that recommended doing this said to do that, as well as welding on new pieces on both sides and the bottom. My question is if that is actually necessary if the existing frame isn't rusted out. Thanks for the help.
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12-30-2008 08:06 AM #2
Should work with just the normal boxing. Might want to add a gusset or two wherever the crossmembers and critical suspension brackets and other such things go... Not familiar at all with the car you're doing, a pic of the frame would help a lot.....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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12-30-2008 08:16 AM #3
Do you need to? No
Will it add strength and rigidity? Yes
What do you need? You decide
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12-30-2008 10:01 AM #4
thanks a ton, I'm gonna be taking some pictures of the car today, I'll try and get some decent shots of the frame, the frame is still all coated in the damn undercoating, but at least you can get an idea of what it looks like
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12-30-2008 11:37 AM #5
Just finishing measuring all the frame rails and taking some pics. The existing frame is 1/8" thick, should I use 3/16" to do the boxing like it seems most people are using?
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12-30-2008 02:21 PM #6
Some pics...hope these help some, I haven't cleaned up the frame yet, but of course that is in order
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12-30-2008 03:52 PM #7
true, the floor was very thin and rusted out in places, which is initially why I pulled it out, then I found that certain parts of the frame were rusted through (you can see some of my cuts in one of the pictures). also, the floor was not very thick which is why I was wondering how thick the boxing should be. I think the route that I'll take now is to just box the frame (top, sides, and bottom) for re-inforcement, then weld in the new floor pan. I'm kind of dumbfounded that you had to point that out to me actually. I've thought for so long on this frame ordeal, I guess I just got overwhelmed. Oh well, soon all will be better though.
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12-30-2008 02:01 PM #8
I wouldn't use anything that heavy, 10ga. would be fine. It's not the thickness of the plate, it's just the fact that it's boxed. No reason to use anything heavier then the original frame material...Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
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12-31-2008 10:30 PM #9
It's not uncommon to put a volvo head on that motor as a performance upgrade.Go ahead and tell me what you think, just don't expect me to change my mind.
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