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I have a friend who swears by this stuff. Has anyone here used Por-15? I'm building a 55 effie and the body is in great shape... want to keep it that way too! He states you put it on your floor, cab wells, inner doors and you will never have a rust problem in the future. Of course, that is if you don't have a rust problem now.
I've used POR-15 and Corroless with wonder results. The only thing you need to do is topcoat the materials if they will be exposed to sunlight. My advice is to wear long sleeve shirts and a good set of work gloves when working with either or, as it takes up to 4 weeks for it to wear off if you get it on your skin....Ask me how I know:whacked: ;) :LOL:
Bill S.
Also this needs to be painted over bare metal.... light surface rust is fine as long as it isnt "loose" (wirebrush it a little first)
Sandblasted metal works great....
Just dont apply it over paint... it only works if it is in contact with the metal!
Use it on every car I work on floors or fenders... Like it a lot....!!!!
I agree, so you have 100% possitive response. again , works best with clean metal, and no loose rust, in spite of the advertisement.
The self etching primer is great, but prep is ultra important. If you click on my project link below you will see alot of it in action, especially the frame.
Dont try to paint bare smooth aluminum with it, it will peel off in 6 months. always use a good self etching primer first. Get plenty of rubber gloves. It flows really good even with a brush and brush marks disappear in a matter of minutes. After you open the can pour what you got left into a glass mason jar, put clear plastic wrap under the lid and then turn the jar upside down to store it. Put the cans lid back on the empty can and try to take it off the next day.
good stuff but follow the directions and prep the metal
I was spraying a frame one day with Por 15 and a bug landed on the frame so I spayed another coat over the bug. Two weeks later while assembling the chassis I came across the bug. I scraped the bug off with a knife and his guts were still wet. That's how well that stuff seals moisture out and in. I've sprayed about 20 chassis with that stuff and people are always asking if it's powder coating. I can usually spray a frame and all of the suspension components with one quart. It goes a long way. If you spray it you need to wear a respirator. Nasty stuff if you get it in your lungs. I love it! (not to the point of being sexual)
So its sprayable any special needle size. 1.3 or 1.8
very satisfied with the stuff,I tried it on a grill bracket that I should have done more work to before painting. Big mistake,that stuff is like iron. Hank
That stuff works great I used on the floor of my pickup truck and a couple of other items. But I was most impressed with it when i put on to the under side of my mower deck. I could never keep the deck from getting rusty no matter how often I cleaned it. I just cleaned and preped it and put in on on it's been almost 3 years and no rust in sight.
I spray it with a Harbour Freight HVLP gravity feed gun with a 1.4 needle. I think a paid $49.00 for the gun on sale.
Is this like 'Rust Doctor'?
Ive got some rust doctor but havent tried it yet. Thinking about using it for the rusty insides of the fenders and interior panels. They say it can be applied over prepped rust and paint.
Joe. have used POR15 extensively on Chassis, underbodies, etc. As others have said prep is the key and the stuff is like iron. I sprayed a frame with it in a homemade booth with fans, wore a respirator, and still felt weird for 2 days. POR15 does not work like ordinary paints that rely on solvents to dry. It reacts on some sort of chemical reaction that dries up all moisture(or at least encapsulates it) so it is VERY DANGEROUS for the lungs! I talked to a so Cal dealer who tried spraying it w/o a respirator and it mput him in the hospital for 2 weeks. Said he almost died. So be careful, and as stated before, wear gloves and be extra neat with it. Good Luck!
P.S. - It won't stand up to ultra violet light (the SUN) - it dulls badly unless topcoated with something
I was just coming onto the forum to ask about this stuff. Just today I was talking to a guy at the shop about painting or powder coating the frame. He mentioned this stuff knowing I want to do as much work as possible. So this stuff works great for sealing/protecting a frame? Any advantage to spraying vs. brushing? He said you can get it from Eastwood...is that a good place to get it?
Charlyg- does the sun affect the protection or just finish...could you just put clear over it?
So this is the deal:
Prep surface well
Apply to bare metal
Cover skin
Do not breath
Anything else?
The finish just dulls in the sunlight. Still very strong., Putting a good clearcoat over it may be the answer but I would check with whoever you purchase it from as to which clear to use. It may have to be a POR15 product.
I was looking through my old Eastwood catelog and didn't see Por 15, but I did see "Chassis Black"...Anyone know if this is this the same type of thing??
An idea for using the product is to put two self tapping screws into the top, then you can remove the screws, pour out what you need and replace the screws.
Chassis black is just plain old paint. I buy Por 15 from a local body shop supply house. Heck most all the parts stores handle it now.... Not even hard to find it out here in the sticks!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by 35fordcoupe
Just want to make sure I do this thing right! The Por-15 website shows a three step process, Marine Clean - Metal Ready, then the Por-15. Will this do the task? I'm looking at doing the inside of the doors, cab wells, cab flooring (basically the entire inside of cab) and possibly the underside of cab. Do any of you guys put this on the underside of fenders or is that necessary? FYI- Doing a 55 Ford F100 that is in really good shape... no rust showing anywhere. The frame has already been painted silver with clear coat.
Hey 35fordcoupe - contact Rick Bruns - 909-232-9514/Rusted Rods WWW.rustedrods.com - he is a dealer in calif.
I looked at the Chassis Black again and it looks like it is a 3 stage thing...prime, rust protectant, chassis black...so I guess chassis black is just paint...
charlyg- I'm not quite ready for the por15, but I'll save that number...thanks
Try Rust Bullet.
It's incredible.
(No, I'm not selling it.)
I've not tried POR 15, but I've seen tests where Rust Bullet is much better.
I used Coroless a lot earlier. Coroless is nothing compared to Rust Bullet.
And one more thing. I live in Norway, wich is the country where the NATO alliance tests military equipment against wet and cold weater...
I sprayed every piece of metal on my jeep truck inside & out...
By the way that chassis black looks good sprayed on top of the por-15 like someone else said 1 QT goes a long way....3 qt's did every thing on my 4x4 right down to the nuts & bolts! well i may have gotten into a 4th. Do wear a mask & gloves..i've hand black hands for days when i didn't wear gloves.. the stuff is just that thin you can't help but get some on ya!
Oh and i been using the por-15 for around 20 years now! & they have came out with some great stuff since then...
Best of luck...you'll be hooked once you use it.
i used rust bullit instead of por15 and i think it works better. you can put it over old paint and rusted metal just the usal wire brushing to get rid of the loose paint and rust. The navy uses this stuff on there boats and they say it outlast por15. there are two typs though industral and auto motive the automotive is what i used it sprayed right on with a hvlp spray gun http://www.rustbullet.com/
Been using POR-15 on the insides of the cold air kits I make for Buick Grand Nationals. The chrome pipes I use frequently have rust inside them. I use POR-15's Metal Prep on the pipes first and then coat with gloss black POR-15. Works great!
I have used POR-15 on several vehicles. It works very well on rusted surfaces but it does not adhear to clean metal all that well? I have had several places peel after a while using it on clean metal - even using the metal prep. It will stick better to clean metal if you can wet the metal then wipe the water off and paint it while the surface just has a hint of moisture left on it.
What ever you do - do not breathe the por-15 fumes. If you do you could very likely never be able to work with paint again. I had a leaky air supply line and got some into it - I will never use the product again, not even to brush it on!!!
I have started using the Rust Bullet. It works as well but is not as harmful if you breathe some.
Scott...
POR 15 is good stuff!!! I have a trailer that I painted with it a few weeks back. I went over the thing with a wire brush attachment on a grinder. Then I sprayed it on with a 10 dollar spray gun from the great harbor freight:D . I sprayed the bottom to get a lot of coverage real quick . I brushed the top of the trailer and it came out very glossy looks great to bad I will have to paint it again with regular paint to cover where the sun will hit. With this stuff you can have it glossy, semi gloss, or flat depending on how you apply.
A friend painted his frame and his front calipers and various frame components with a brush. Everything developed tiny bumps all over the surface. He claimed he followed the prep directions religiously. Anybody know what happened? He won't go near the stuff now. I'd like to give it a try but I don't dare till I find out what happened. His calipers peeled after he spilled brake fluid on them. Him not happy 'bout Por15. Thanks.
Were the calipers brand new? When they are new they are heavily covered with oil. I am willing to put money on it being caused by not cleaning the surface good enough. In the instructions it says not to use thinner (I think it was thinner maybe alcohol) to clean cause it leaves a film that will affect the product. What did he use to clean the parts? Did he use the calipers on the car and then then bubbles started to appaer ? If the bubbles appeared as soon as the paint dried it was probably from preparation. If the bubbles appeared awhile later then maybe heat affected the paint.
Does anyone know how heat will affect POR 15?