Why I like Rice Burners.

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I think it's still accurate to note that most people (emphasis on the most, not to be confused with all) start out with car ownership buying an "affordable" used car relative to their place in time. So it is quite natural for today's young folks to buy a used car, typically used "family" cars of their era. When I was a newly licensed driver I and my contemporaries were buying early to mid '50's cars. These were cars that were new when we were 5 to 10 years old. Sure, a few bought even older cars, but they were the exception. We then modified these cars as far as our budgets would allow to make them into whatever we thought was cool. To me, kids today are following a very similar pattern.

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Yesssss, Once again I am weird, when I was 16 my first car was a 1963.5 Galaxie 500 NASCAR 427, Now I'm 24 and building a 68 Galaxie 500, (Dont think I'm only a Ford guy I have also built a 66 Nova, I built a cornet (For a friend) I rodded a maveric once just to say I did, 3 old VW Bugs with big ass tires then taken them in the mud and rolled them over for fun; "dude there round I bet I can land back on my wheels!!") I have built a lot of cars in 24 years (13 to be exact, 14 including the one I'm working on right now.) And none of them have been imports unless there sole purpose was to distroy it after I spent as little money as possible on the car. I do how ever have respect for some imports, not because there fast or I think the cars look good, Cause they dont sorry, but because the guy or gal who owns it loves it just like I love my camaro and galaxie my wife thinks I'm sick my camaro is named Samantha, and my galaxie Sara, some import guys feel the same way about that hunk of metal which at times can be the biggest pain in the butt, and most of the time is your way of excaping after a 20 hour day turning wrenches for uncle Sam. Just my 1/2 a penney

Otto

Hi people.

Just came across your web site by chance and a good thing to.
Very intersting reading here.
Anyway, on the subject of cheap Muscle Cars. What price range would you define the cheap end of the market and the high end?
If your looking for cheap Muscle then look no further. Over the last 20 years or so American Muscle cars have been exported to the UK in their droves. I think you would be surprised at the number of cars here in the UK. But the really interesting thing is the prices. Unlike in the US where prices seem to be sky high, here you can buy a quality car for a fraction of the price. For example, I would expect to pay between 4-10 grand for a Dodge Challenger, 10 grand being for the 440 model. Or another example, late sixties Buick Riviera GS, in mint condition top of the range sport model for only 3.5k.
Not that I would like to see all these great cars vanish from our roads but it seems one could pick up a super deal for very little cash.
Regards, Steve.

Steve,

Welcome to CHR! And since you brought up the subject, check your local publications there and let me know what a good clean 1968 or 1969 Camaro would cost in the good ole UK... maybe I'll bring one of those babies back home :)

Glad you're here with us at CHR.

Dan J

OK lets think about this here, Import car about $9000 being very modest, Domestic muscle depends on the car between $100-8000
Engine rebuild kit, machine work, and cam ect, Domestic around $2000, import $3000-5000 Once again being very modest.
N2O Domestic, unneeded if you biult her right, Import $300-800
HMMMM dont sound a lot cheeper to me.

In the long run I can see it though, Gas 1968 Galaxie 500 12 Gallons to the mile, 4 Banger 100000000000000000000 miles to the gallon.

Cost of owning somethig you built and are very proud of, Priceless, what difference does it make, just dont pull up next to my Galaxie in a 4 Banger or you WILL leave crying.

I was going to say sothig else but stress has taken my mind and I can only hope he brings it back by its curfew.


Otto

I dont see how car people can sit back and make fun of the new GEN of car nuts? The fad of the ricer comes down to money. There nothing more then what you where back in the day. Taking what they can afford along with whats out there and working on going fast. Very few of these BOYS are getting 9 grand base cars and going from there. Most are getting cars in the 2500 - 6000 range and donig what they can.
Just a year ago I was going to shows with my corvette about every weekend. The people that put the shows on would set space aside for a (ricer pit) and let kids bring there toys in. I found some thing that made me want to slap some people :mad:
Here are KIDS working there harts out to gain even alittle respect in the world of custom cars. IMO most of them working 100 times harder then most streetrod people for the money they need to spend to get there rides where they are. VS. The guy with the 32 coupe in his 50's with more then enough money in the bank to sit back and play with there trailer queens.
The Kids have NOTHING BUT RESPECT for the old school cars and the people that make them. It would mean SO much to these KIDS to get some of that respect back. YET most of the old school guys wont even look at there work none the less go up to them and ask about there rides or say " Hey good job keep it up kid"
I feel thats just about as rude as you could get :CRY: Give the next gen of hot rodders alittle respect. Most are broke or at least car poor like you where when you where young. So why not help atleast keep there harts in the sport. It would mean so much to a younger person to hear good job once in a while. ;)

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Originally posted by carguyinok
I dont see how car people can sit back and make fun of the new GEN of car nuts? The fad of the ricer comes down to money. There nothing more then what you where back in the day. Taking what they can afford along with whats out there and working on going fast. Very few of these BOYS are getting 9 grand base cars and going from there. Most are getting cars in the 2500 - 6000 range and donig what they can.
Just a year ago I was going to shows with my corvette about every weekend. The people that put the shows on would set space aside for a (ricer pit) and let kids bring there toys in. I found some thing that made me want to slap some people :mad:
Here are KIDS working there harts out to gain even alittle respect in the world of custom cars. IMO most of them working 100 times harder then most streetrod people for the money they need to spend to get there rides where they are. VS. The guy with the 32 coupe in his 50's with more then enough money in the bank to sit back and play with there trailer queens.
The Kids have NOTHING BUT RESPECT for the old school cars and the people that make them. It would mean SO much to these KIDS to get some of that respect back. YET most of the old school guys wont even look at there work none the less go up to them and ask about there rides or say " Hey good job keep it up kid"
I feel thats just about as rude as you could get :CRY: Give the next gen of hot rodders alittle respect. Most are broke or at least car poor like you where when you where young. So why not help atleast keep there harts in the sport. It would mean so much to a younger person to hear good job once in a while. ;)

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You must have met a different group of the "new hotrodders" than are around here. These have no respect whatsoever for american cars, let alone american rods. To these people it's only right if it's Jap. Sure, some of them pour their hearts into their cars. So do I. I don't own a Jap car. I pour most of my income into my cars. I don't own a single foreign car. All were built in Detroit, Kenosha, or Spring Hill. I have friends who work on ricers. There are a few who are like you say. However, most only spend a portion of their income on bolt on go fast noisy parts. These people feel that putting a fart pipe and a cold air intake and a different air filter on their Jap cars makes them rodders. No, nor does putting a fiberglass body kit on it. Maybe you think that a few bolt on parts and a shopping cart handle on a front wheel drive car classifies as a hot rod. I don't. To me, a hot rod is something more. Something that requires more than a two weeks salary and a weekend to put together. It should have true power. Yes, a Jap car can be made to generate power, and loads of it if you do the right things to the right one. I do hold respect for the Jap owners who can actually make their car into something more. To me a Jap car will never be a hot rod. It may be a tuner or a supertuner, but not a hot rod. And I will respect the power of the everyday Jap car as soon as they respect the power my cars have.

Why i hate ricers, lets see, the rice clubs around here have ratted us out to the cops id say about 10 times at least, for racing, smoking tires, speeding, you name it, they are all rats who drive like idiots themselves, i have seen many of those clubs cut off people at about 80 and almost make them wreck, then they will park, rev they farts up and turn on their strobes. They have no concept of real power or of the determination it takes to build it. Who cant put nitrous on something??? thats all they do around here and daily me and my friends will put them to shame, none of us using nitrous besides the ricers. If we pull in to talk, they will act very rude and tell me how "dog you should put some 20s on that and drop it" yeah thats what i want, that adds what 50 horse?????? They just have no concept of power. LIGHTS DONT EQUAL POWER.

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Maybe you think that a few bolt on parts and a shopping cart handle on a front wheel drive car classifies as a hot rod.

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:confused: Funny, I dont recall EVER saying that:confused:
Sure there are some real dumb people out there that do dumb things. But my point is...... As a car nut\ buff To group and judge someone for what the love to work on and fix up is just WRONG.
EVERY group has azzholes :whacked: Thats life. My point is dont hate a whole group for the bad seeds. I just dont get it :confused: We all have a love for CARS and should have some respect for each other. UNTILL that respect is broken between the two. If you roll by and mad dog someone for what there driving then whos the fool for prejudging?
I am not a ricer I am a hot rodder at hart. My past toys and projects are proof of this. Sure at this time I am going with a import body with my 240Z. But still dropping GM American power in her :D . Hell in the import market its one of the only true classics in the market. Yet here I go with a rust free one and rodding it. I dont know how many people know how much these little jap cars are worth now days. It took me eight years of hunting to find it with the GM swap in mind the WHOLE time. Now that I have it I am SO SO happy its not funny and thats what counts.
Call me what you please for doing this car but I assure you ricer is not a word that fits.
I do have the backs of the new age car nut tho. I feel as car people that have a true love for the car and doing custom work on them we should stick togather. You never know when you could learn some thing new or who you could learn it from. ;) If you dont know that much well.......

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They just have no concept of power. LIGHTS DONT EQUAL POWER.

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The main reason for this IMO is very few people take the time to be a nice person and show them. If you want to make the point to them SHOW UM. Take a young person thats trying and give them a ride in a real power car. Dont just spank um and drive away. How will they ever know if no one takes the time to prove the point :confused: Give them someone to look up to. If you take alittle time with the kids today our sport will live MUCH LONGER.

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Originally posted by carguyinok
The main reason for this IMO is very few people take the time to be a nice person and show them. If you want to make the point to them SHOW UM. Take a young person thats trying and give them a ride in a real power car. Dont just spank um and drive away. How will they ever know if no one takes the time to prove the point :confused: Give them someone to look up to. If you take alittle time with the kids today our sport will live MUCH LONGER.

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My saturn doesn't have true power. It is enough for a car of its size. I have taken a few rice lovers for a ride, and they are impressed. When I finish my Nash rod, or my Burb, or my C10, I'll give people a ride. All of them will be powered by american muscle. My rod already has a good 351C in it. When I get it finished, it will be a force to reckon with. The rest of my projects are on hold for lack of funding, but the Nash is still going. And when it comes the day I get it out on the road legally, I will give some of these ricers a ride, after handing them their @sses on a platter. One day I may finish the GTO powered 1960 Bonneville that has been 30 years in the making. That will be true muscle in a sleeper package. That would be a fun one to race and cruise. Yeah, the ricers are impressed by true muscle, but it has no lasting effects. I have friends who drive 60s & 70s Chevelles. When they give a ride to a ricer, the ricer doesn't change their deviant ways. The rice is too much of a temptation. Too easy to come by and too popular to be avoided. Maybe these ricers will see the light and get real cars powered by real engines.

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When they give a ride to a ricer, the ricer doesn't change their deviant ways. The rice is too much of a temptation. Too easy to come by and too popular to be avoided. Maybe these ricers will see the light and get real cars powered by real engines.

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The way I see it **) At least the seed was planted :3dSMILE: Now just pray it was not wasted . :whacked: Just give it a few they will remember the day they went fast rather then quick & what got them there :p

sorry folks , the rice may be great for some of the younger crowd, but personally I think they SUCK. Most likely because of all the a$$hole around here w/their fart cans & thump thump crappp they have playing,, Along w/they have NO MANNERS and think they own the road. I pitty the next fool who pulls out in front of me in a ricer when I'm driving either of my burbs, cause all they'll be is a speed bump when i run them over :LOL: :LOL: ..........joe

JHC....we've been Japslapped byJapcrap..!!....It's my turn to Japslap Japcrap..The hell with it...Japcrap never listens even after being Japslapped by a Japslapper anyhow..I could rap with Japcrap but all I hear is crap so Japcrap is just that=Crap....So.....go ahead Japcrap....post a mickey mouse crap response...I ain't got time for your crap...:whacked: :whacked: :whacked:

I understand what both Joe and Carguyinok are saying and IMO they both have valid points.

I see a lot similarities between this generation and when I grew up. I think we are again going through a time where part of the current generations fad is having a "neat car" as defined by their peers and driven by what they see both on the street and in the offerings that Hollywood has produced such as the" Fast and the Stupid".

When I got my liscence in 68 "fast" cars were a part of my generation. The big difference was they were more readily available. During my senior year the HS parking lot usually had a 68 GTX, 3 BB Chevells, a HIPO 289 Mustang, a 389 tri-power 4 spd Catalina (loved that car) and a 57 Chevy sitting in it.

Then there was the rest of the lot, generally filled with the kids who wanted a fast car, but could only afford to try to make it look the part (or whos parents said no to anything but dress up parts), 283 2 bbl Impallas, 318 powered Mopars, 289 2 BBL Galaxies etc with chrome reverse wheels and glasspack mufflers and usually jacked up in the rear with 3 foot long shackels.

Of that whole crowd thyere were only about 3 of us who the car bug had actually bitten and stayed with the hobby/sport through the years learing as we went along. To the rest of them the car thing was a passing fad (much like I expect it will be for this generation). Of course we were ALL lumped into the same catagory as young punks, either we were pretenders or mommy and daddy had bought the car and we were not real hot rodders (and in the majority of cases what they were saying was true).

The cars are different, but I think a lot of what happened when I was growing up is going on today. We have a LOT of young pretenders out there who think they are hot rodders that will move on when the next fad comes along, and a very few really promising kids who will be the core of the hobby in the coming years.

Well, with all the anti-rice here this will fit in.

Twas the night before Christmas and caught at the light,
Was a domestic V8, a big red Camaro, and no cops in sight.
I will try, I will try, I will try with this small motor,
To beat this damn Camaro, with its big-block power.
As the light goes green and I pull like no joke,
The Camaro erupts in a cloud of tire smoke.
Now Smasher, now Revver, now Stroker and Blitzen,
These are the names of my VTEC pistons.
Racing ahead I'm the star of the action,
But I know I'm in trouble when that V8 gets traction.
Grabbing second, the RPMs start to sing,
But my mirror is blocked by my big K-Mart wing.
I now hear the roar, of that 502 gaining,
All I can do is keep my 4 banger straining.
In a second it hits, the shockwave with a blast,
All my decals go flying, a thing of the past.
Don't bother with third, cause now its too late,
Just try to act cool, like you can relate.
Watching his taillights, as they got smaller,
The driver backed off, to give me a holler!
"You can't win them all." he says in a fling,
"Hell, you might not win any, in that silly thing."
I scowled and I revved, and let out a sigh,
And did my trademark, Ricer Fly-by.

And Streets.....Your comment on the ......ahem........poetry.?? please.....Tank You Very Much...:whacked: :whacked: :whacked: