Hello again, I would like to ask, when setting your engine in, using front and mid plates, is it ok to give the divers side just a little more room, like 3/4" inches?:HMMM:
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Hello again, I would like to ask, when setting your engine in, using front and mid plates, is it ok to give the divers side just a little more room, like 3/4" inches?:HMMM:
yep, just keep the crank centerline parallel with the centerline of the car (from a birdseye view).
Thanks Tech,
I think I missed something,how do you keep the lines parallel and still be able to give 3/4" on one side?:whacked:
Parallel doesn't mean in-line.
par/al/lel (par'e lel), adj., n., v., -leled, -lel/ing or -lelled, -lel/ling. -adj. 1. at or being the same distance apart everywhere like the two rails of a railroad track. In geometry, parallel lines or planes extend alongside one another, always equidistant and never meeting however far extended.
Duh! ,but one side of the car is not bigger then the other.So how do you have 3/4 more space on one side.Shouldnt both drivers side ,and passengers sides be equal.:DQuote:
Originally posted by techinspector1
Parallel doesn't mean in-line.
par/al/lel (par'e lel), adj., n., v., -leled, -lel/ing or -lelled, -lel/ling. -adj. 1. at or being the same distance apart everywhere like the two rails of a railroad track. In geometry, parallel lines or planes extend alongside one another, always equidistant and never meeting however far extended.
Nope. I'll bet if you trip on down to the boneyard with a tape measure, you'll find that the OEM's moved the motor a little to the passenger side. Now, whether they did it for steering clearance or to balance the car out a little better when there was only the driver in the car, I don't know. If you'll measure from each inner lip of the front fender to the center of the carb or air cleaner stud, I think you'll be educated.Quote:
Originally posted by BigTruckDriver
Duh! ,but one side of the car is not bigger then the other.So how do you have 3/4 more space on one side.Shouldnt both drivers side ,and passengers sides be equal.:D
Swapping a 302 Ford into a Mitsubishi pickup, I had to move the motor to the passenger side by 2 1/4" for steering clearance, but nobody could "see" it by just looking at the installation. Matter of fact, they didn't believe me until I stretched a tape across.
:HMMM:Is the body offset from frame and motor ,or motor is offset in the car and frame?
(Swapping a 302 Ford into a Mitsubishi pickup, I had to move the motor to the passenger side by 2 1/4" for steering clearance, but nobody could "see" it by just looking at the installation. Matter of fact, they didn't believe me until I stretched a tape across. )
I wouldn't of believed some one did that either:D
body and frame are square, motor/trans are offset.
Off to the junk yard,Ill have to measure a few of the same makes and years to get a accurate reading though,1-2 could just have body damaged.I never new this, so one motor mount would be smaller(shorter) than the other?:3dSMILE:
the rear end pinion on the fords are off set so moveing it over it will be ok on some car the engine is not on center for room for the steering box the engine or car will never know if it is move over 3/4 of a inch like tech said :D
Techinspector is correct as usual........Don
In the circle burner days, built a few cars with up to 5" offset to the left for inside weight. Just built the rear end with appropriate length axles, no problem. BTW, got caught about mid year, had to center the engine again !!!!!!!!!
:LOL: I like that,lookin for every possible edge.It aint cheaten unless you get caught.Quote:
Originally posted by Dave Severson
In the circle burner days, built a few cars with up to 5" offset to the left for inside weight. Just built the rear end with appropriate length axles, no problem. BTW, got caught about mid year, had to center the engine again !!!!!!!!!
Sneaky pair of eyes in the shop one night when the front end was off, he ratted us out..////......
You never get too old to see something new. I have always known that you could offset an engine by 1" or 2" in the frame for added steering box clearance.
Likewise, I have always known that some rearends do not have the pinion shaft equally spaced between the backing plates.
I never thought too much about this stuff, and the cars I build have always had everything pretty much on center (I'm a maniac for symmetry).
This past summer, I seen a 30's era pickup truck hotrodded, and the motor was offset towards the passenger side of the truck about 1 1/2" for steering box clearance, while the pinion shaft was offset about 2" towards the drivers side of the rearend. ( I think it was a Ford 9" but I could be wrong).
The truck was channeled, with dropped floors, and the guy who built it had actually built the transmission/driveshaft tunnel in the floorboards running at a quite pronounced angle from the front of the cab to the rear of the cab, to accomodate the driveshaft. With the seat in place, it really wasn't all that visible, and the fellow said that the truck performed very well, with no vibration or weird handling characteristics.
As long as the rear axle is perpendicular to the chassis and the crankshaft is parallel with it, you can offset up/down/left/right.
This doesn't sound like it would work good with high horse power engines,not talking about circle track.The up and down ,no problem,but side to side ,I don't think so:confused:.Is the engine in a Vette off set also?:confused:
Whether or not it sounds like it will work, it will. It's been done for years on street rods and other high performance cars.
As Henry said, as long as the rear exle is perp to the body/frame of the vehicle, there will be no problem. if you think about it, the only thing that is different is the location of the motor, everything else functions normally. The driveshaft still goes to the same place, set in the same position. The motor is still parallel with the body/frame as well, it is just not symmetrical on the same plane.Quote:
Originally posted by BigTruckDriver
This doesn't sound like it would work good with high horse power engines,not talking about circle track.The up and down ,no problem,but side to side ,I don't think so:confused:.Is the engine in a Vette off set also?:confused:
BigTruckDriver, I can see that you're gonna take a lot of convincing......
http://www.engine-swaps.com/window_D...ech_Tip.6.html
See "Stock 280ZX engine position", last line...
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Par...tructions.html
Read the paragraph that begins with "ATTENTION"....
http://www.ttiexhaust.com/PDF/II-C6573-383178.pdf
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Par...onvsnMnts.html
Scroll down to "When that parallel thing occurs"....
http://jniolon.clubfte.com/driveline...nephasing.html
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?p=461702
Read "The Mockup"...
http://users.nac.net/gr/eagleweb/v8eagle/
See mounts JM400....
http://www.samsoffroad.com/samsoffro...otorMounts.htm
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