i need to know how much a 1957 4dr. chevy. weigh and a 1968 pont. lemons. :cool:
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i need to know how much a 1957 4dr. chevy. weigh and a 1968 pont. lemons. :cool:
are you looking for factory shippng weights, NHRA weights, or actual weight with the fluids, etc.? Also, the weights with a 6 cyl motor is different than a V8.....so how close do you need?
57 Chevy
150 4dr sed 3236
210 4dr sed 3270
210 hdtp 4dr 3320
BelAir 4dr sdn 3276
BelAir 4dr hdtp sed 3340
1968 LeMans
spt cpe 3287
hdtp cpe 3302
hdtp sdn 3407
conv cpe 3377
we have a 55 nomad it was 4020 ready to drive . 2 tons of fun ! i bet a nomad and a 4 dr are about the same .
Kenny, listed shipping weight for a 55 mad is 3385......
factory shipping weights are usually on the light side.
mike in tucson
:whacked: :whacked: Robot, Thanks,I tried to tell Mike over the phone this afternoon that a 68 Lemans proberly weighed a little more than a 57 chevy 4dr. He thought I was nuts . I have a book that I paid about 35 bucks for 20 years ago. For a minute I thought we had the same book. My lemans weights were identical to yours and the 57 weights were within 5 lbs.Quote:
Originally posted by lt1s10
i need to know how much a 1957 4dr. chevy. weigh and a 1968 pont. lemons. :cool:
Kenny, my book list a 55 Bel Air 4dr.S.W. at 3385 and a 55 Nomad wagon at 3300.
By the time you add a few options ( back then there were not that many)and a tank of gas you could add a couple hundred pounds to each car.
For the most part,back in the 50s, 60s and 70s each new model year was a little heavier than the year before. They were trying to out do last years model. All that Glitz adds weight.:) :)
if yall say so, sounds light to me. i got a 1993 pont. firebird, fiberglass unibody that weigh 3400 lb EW. :confused:
How about the plymouth fury II wasn't that close to 2 ton I'd like to know what the heaviest 4 dr sedan of all time is.... Anyone know ? ? ?
A 75 Cadillac Fleetwood 4 dr. Limousine 9 pass. had a shipping weight of 5862lbs. Dont know if thats a record but its pretty stout
One of the heaviest fast cars was a 66 Olds Toronado Deluxe, 4779 lbs. Shipping weight-425 c.i. 375 hp. front wheel drive.:cool:
Those lead sledds would suprise lots of people. They would hook up well and and pull like gangbusters.
The 75 plymouth Grand Fury Group, All 11 of them were heavy loads. Anywhere from 4205 to 4930 lbs.shipping weight.
Some more bits of useless information. :)
i just talked to a guy that has a 1957 chev, conv. stock, weighted it at the truck stop and the weight was 4900 plus. take 200 off for gas, 200 off for the driver and another 100 for dirt in the chassis and thats 4400. thats a long way from 3400. :confused:
riverhorse do you really belive a 1975 ply. is 4900 and a 1957 chev is 3350? i dont
here is the NHRA factor page. Used to be the NHRA published the factory shipping weight and then adjusted the horsepower for an engine. Now, they adjust the "factor" wiich is the shipping weight divided by the horsepower. So now you cannot multiply back to find the shipping weight....cause they fiddled with the numbers. But it does show some relative positions for a car line.....like the difference between a 150 and a 210 and a BelAir
http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/classification/
does anybody on this forum have a vehicle registeration to a 1957 chev. of any kind, i would like to know what the EW weight is . any help would be appreciated. **)
Title weights vary by state. The state adds weight to allow for fluids and people......
Surely someone used to race a stocker 57 in NHRA who knows the weight OR someone has one.
57 2dr ht factory spec 3,278 curb weight, 4 door wag 3,460
nomad 2 door wag 3,465 what i cant believe is the 2005
corvette is about 100 pounds less than a 57 2dr ht spot coup?
what makes the vette so heavy **)
What makes it heavy? SMC, government mandated safety and emissions stuff, amenities like A/C, power tissue dispenser, etc. It's a miracle that it is as light as it is.
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Originally posted by lt1s10
does anybody on this forum have a vehicle registeration to a 1957 chev. of any kind, i would like to know what the EW weight is . any help would be appreciated. **)
I just got in from dinner and was looking at your post in disbelief. As I was reading these post Cheatin Keaton called so I read him your post . He wanted to know if You were drinking? I told him you had not touched anything in more than 10yrs. He could not believe you thought a 55 to 57 chevy weighed that much . He said when he was running D Modified Production ,with the 55 -210 2dr. sedan that the shipping weight was 3115lbs. As we were talking I looked it up .My book said 3125lbs. He had to weigh 3745 to make weight for DM/P. He added a 40 lb. flywheel, a 90lb. bellhousing, a tank of fuel ,and still had to add a bunch of weight to make the class.It amazes me that when several people here have the books with the proff in front of them, thats not good enough for some people. They want to hear what they want to hear.The only way a 57 Chevy convertible weighed 4400 lbs.was with 5 people in the trunk trying to sneak into the Drive-In. If You believe otherwise, You need to see somebody.
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no riverhorse i dont belive every thing ever body tells me and i dont know how they come up with shipping wt. and you dont either. it could be like the HP rating back then. if i was quoting HP out of the book you would be telling me im craze to. ill belive the guy that said he weighted his own car before i belive the book yes, he had no reason to lie about it. he had a 57 i ask him did he know how much it weighted and thats what he told me. i want gonna tell him you said he was wrong, you call him and tell him. ive all ways belived 57 weighted more than 3400 llbs. so no i havent changed my mind one way or another. what can i say, i wish you wouldnt get so upset. kennyd says his is 4000, the one up here the man says 4900 less driver, gas and what ever, so i still dont know. i looked up about 30 GM cars tonight from 1949 to 2003 and every one was from 3100 something to 3400 something lbs. that to me sounds a little odd. what happened to the light weight cars? a 1993 camaro weights the same thing as a 1957 chev.????????? :HMMM: im not talking about a car sitting on a car hauler either. if ive offended anyone im sorry, but its more to this than meets the eye. dont forget i know Cheatin Keaton also. if the car belonged to Cheatin Keaton and it was on the scales at the drag strip and i was looking at the weight i still wouldnt belive it. :LOL:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DennyW
Riverhorse, I woke up this morning, only to read all these replies. I think you are wrong, and I'll tell you why. The weight scale I used to check my Ranchero with was a State scale. I even have the slip somewhere, and if I find it, I'll post it. I looked up the weight for a 1969 Ranchero GT, with a 429cj, and ac. Just like I had. It said weight was 3200. All I can think of is total dry weight for shipping. So, if you add the total ready to drive down the street, it's 3900. That makes the Chevy 4 dr weigh at least 4100. I believe that, and I'm sticking to it. :whacked:
PS I don't know about now, I assume it would be the same, but, at the dealer when cars came in, they had nothing at all in them. I also helped fill them up with what they needed to get ready. [/QUOTE
talked to a guy today had 2 of them couldnt prove it but he says they were at least 3800 and not over 4000 with some gas in them. until i see a weight ticket of a daily driver im gonna say a 57 chevy v8, auto. trans. dailey driver is somewhere between 3800 and 4100 lbs. thats my story and im sticking to it.
My florida registration for my 210 has no GVW on it however the previous title from michigan shows 3200 ! !
looks like they are using shiping wt. i belive the "going down the rd. wt." is dif. from the shipping wt. :HMMM:Quote:
Originally posted by deltahomer
My florida registration for my 210 has no GVW on it however the previous title from michigan shows 3200 ! !
sound like you got lead in the bed, then it would be a lead sled. wonder why the dif in the posted wt.? . :LOL:Quote:
Originally posted by DennyW
Well, heres a little more on my comparison. What I asked was what would my 1934 truck weigh ? I can assure you that with what I have now, is way lighter that the posted weight. Weight will be about 2900 pounds, not 4400. And, I am keeping it pretty much stock on the wood thing, just like factory. But, The Merc 410 instead of the 6 cylinder. C6 trans, instead of the old stick they had.
The new 1934 Chevrolet Series DB Master Commercial truck line was completely revised. For the first time trucks featured a unique appearance, no longer did they share front end sheet metal with autos. The half-ton trucks' wheelbase was stretched to 112-inches. Its frame was entirely new, heavier and stronger than the passenger car frames of the past. Subsequently, its GVW rating increased to 4400 pounds from 4100 pounds. Horsepower increased to 60 at 3000 rpm from 56 at 2750 but maximum torque was unchanged. Body offerings remained at four--canopy, panel, pickup, and sedan delivery.
It just so happens that I have a few old titles and/or copies of titles here at home. Thought maybe some of these might be interesting to compare.
!- 67 chevelle malibu v/8 2dr.h.t Title says 3115 lbs.
Book says 2980/3115
2- 63 chevy 11 ,2dr h.t. came with a 6 cylinder. Title says 2400lbs.
Book says 2590
3- 64 Impala ss 2dr.h.t. Title says 3700 lbs. Book says 3325/3450
I think I may have given that 3700 to DMV It was just a guess.
4- 66 Impala 327 4dr. sedan. Title says3565lbs. Book says 3425/
3565lbs.
5- 77 El camino . Title says 3881 Lbs.Book does not go past 75.
6- 78 El camino . Title says 3369 lbs. First yr, for the smaller ELcamino.
7- 84 Z28 Camaro. Title says 3276lbs
8- 92 GMC 1500 pickup 8 ft bed . Title says4293lbs
9- 91 Full size Bronco 4x4 Title says 4315 lbs.
10-89 Chev G20 long wheelbase work van. Title says 4144lbs. Sold this Van To LT1S10's brother.
11- 88 Cadillac Sedan Deville . Title says4114lbs.
12- 81 Cadillac El Dorado Title says 3822 lbs
13-86 Chevrolet G20 LWB Conversion Van. Title says 4200 Lbs.
Mike , Please dont tell me you think the weight of a 57 Chevy is more than 2 different Cadillacs, 2 different G20 Long wheelbase vans, A 92 GMC full size pickup with an 8 ft. bed and A 91 4x4 full size V/8 Bronco. It just aint so!!!
Oh,I just found the title to my 70 Chevelle ,2dr HT.Title says it weighed 3513 lbs. After I had put the 406,4 speed, posi, Blow proof bellhousing and 3 in.exhaust on it ,I had it weighed at the moving storage in Scotts Addition. It weighed 3605 lbs.with a quarter tank of gas.
:) :)
:confused: Denny ,Not sure I understand what you're asking! The GVW of 4400 lbs. means the total weight of the truck with a full load on it. Are You saying that your truck is a lot bigger than a normal 34 chevy pickup.Im just guessing but I would think a 34 chevy pickup would not even weigh 2500 pounds.:whacked:Quote:
Originally posted by DennyW
:( So, what about my truck ? You mean it weighs more than all those ? :LOL: :LOL:
ok riverhorse you are right, shipping wt. of a 57 is around 3400lb. the? has been for the last 2 days is whether shipping wt. and (that would be the wt. that would be on titles), is the same wt, as when you get the car home from the dealership. we were talking about a 57 being raced at the track when this started , not setting on a car hauler. i asked 4 dif. people that own 57's and they say 3800 to 4000 is what their wt. sitting in the drive way with a 1/2 tank of gas was, so to end this I'm saying you are right a 1957 chev. shipping wt. is 3400 lbs. i believe that, hadn't never thought about it before, for some reason I've delt with actual wt. all my life, and you would play hell driving that car off of the car hauler home, but you are right. i apologies to everybody on here that i questioned your answers. i wish i had worded my ? another way. thanks mike
thanks for your post kennyd, what do you put in them things lead? :LOL:Quote:
Originally posted by kennyd
we have a 55 nomad it was 4020 ready to drive . 2 tons of fun ! i bet a nomad and a 4 dr are about the same .