ok, some good old fashion honesty is what i needed. Thanks, I think i'm going to start this project by getting the motor already there to run (if it can be done cheaply enough) and securing a title, that'll give me some time to hit the area junkyards with a measuring tape to figure out what i should do for a frame. I think building one is out of my league at this point but modifying an exsisting one is doable (i think ).