Here`s my take on a issue that came up in a post ,some are wondering why the rat rodders seem so angry and defensive?well as i tried to explain before in my thread titled (attempt to explain) which is mysteriously not in the rat rod forum???? the thought process behind our ways, 30 to 40 crowd . Well the way i see it ,the kids who are a little younger than us 15 to 25,who are now getting in the scene ,misunderstand our views on things,when they were little and influenced by us they saw when we were still angry little punk rockers causing trouble, so now they think that thats the way it still is, my little sister proves my point all the time,she`s 23 and angry as hell ,when me or my older sister try to stear her in a better direction in life she comes back at us with ,you guys used to do it, so i think that has alot to do with it. Denny has stated a couple of times that rat rods got labeled in the 80s ,which i think is a little early ,the articals ive read say the guy who claims the name started building muscle cars in the 80s, but did not get into hot rods until the 90s it was around 95 that rats started making a presence which is about the time i remember ,which puts the 15 to 25 guys at a very impressional age ,like denny has stated with us,we were misunderstanding the way you guys were