Thanks AL I skipped the details. Gene had a 54 this yr and 53's last yr. Ya can always go with a cheby iffin yer goin fer a floater Rodz'. theres also some poeple who repop the vette teeth. I was actually thinkin of using plumbers 90o pipe welded at aposing angles joined at the ends to a pan for the 53 'Soto look. Paint it up.