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Looking for a great Side Oiler engine to build.
Got scammed from a engine builder for 10k of money and parts, so after 6 years of depression, I'm now wanting to build another motor for my 427 Cobra replica. I can not afford 15k (+) for a typical new finished low powered Side Oiler.
I had a nice 428 FE, and may have to stay with this inch engine, because of the Side Oiler cost. Looking to hopefully,....get 600 HP/TQ.
We'll see. ;)
Call Mike at MCRP in Bethlehem, PAQuote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
What do you mean exactly, parts ?
Thank you.
I'd cut off some bolt heads and glue them to the side of a 428 block.:whacked:
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Parts and build, he has done dozens of FE engines for the local SAAC group (yes, we are more anal than the Cobra group :D ), my own 428CJ in my 69 GT500 included. Don't piece meal an engine together, get it done right the first time and you won't fall in to the same mess you did with your last engine builder.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
600HP in a Cobra replica makes the car useless on the street, stop getting wrapped up like a newbie to the scene, you have been around longer than that and should know better.
I'll leave it at that
DennyW-he wants to be exactly correct on side oiler 427, but modified enough to do 600+hp, and put it in a REPLICA-----Remember, the dyno slip in your pocket is more important than the race record certificate on the wall------
Great contacts to get a hold of. Thank you.
I prefer too much HP guys. I raced 360/410 (750-800 HP) dirt winged sprint cars for many years, so I like loss of traction fun.
Besides, on occasion's that I drag race, with good slicks, chassis set-up and throttle control, 600 HP/TQ is fine.
But I do agree, that anything over that you just can't use.
It's like Sammy Swindell (World of Outlaw driver) has a aluminum 410ci that's suppose to be over 1,000 HP.
Way,....to much to get down on even a fast tacky track. (unless it's 2 miles long) lol
Even though the cost is outrageous,....the newer aluminum Shelby FE or the two other Side Oiler manufactures iron or aluminum blocks may fair better than finding a original Side Oiler.
Finding a "Good One" is very difficult and may cost about the same after machining, sonic tested etc...
I don't have the 12-15k to spend on any of the renowned FE engine builders complete engines, so if I can get a new block, have it finial machined and buy, say the 482 cube kit from Barry, it might work out well. Barry's new FE head looks awesome in flow etc....I haven't seen the cost yet ?
A friend and I can assemble the motor with no problems.
What's your thoughts ?
Kevin
I've often thought of the 514. I mean, how can you beet price of 8k, with a warranty,.... and ◾625 HP @ 6250 RPMQuote:
Originally Posted by DennyW
◾600 ft./lbs. of torque @ 4800 RPM ?
The low end TQ is awesome.
I'd agree with your final post.. 8K and a warranty,,
But Barry R's builds are way to tempting for the FE "cool factor".. and a SOHC FE is always impressive!
Yep, that's why I don't really like the idea of anything but an FE, to be in my Cobra.
And, I don't want the small block Ford either, as my body style is the 427 S/C.
But, I'm not counting it out yet......
Have you seen Jon Kaase's SOHC motor ? WOW !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD_rHQA8_Rk
Your photo icon, do you have a FE, if so in what ?
I might be tempted to drop in a new Coyote crate motor....
Yes, quite a few guys are using that motor.
I've seen that video before, thanks for sharing it tho'.. currently there is no FE round here.. The coupe has a stroked 302.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Before the coupe was a couple 67 Mustangs, 1 was a GT500. the other a 390 GT, stroked to 410.
If I ever hit the lottery, I'll have Jon K and Barry R working overtime to deliver some toys for my living room! :eek::LOL::rolleyes:
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If I ever hit the lottery, I'll have Jon K and Barry R working overtime to deliver some toys for my living room!"
Hey if either one of us does with the lotto, lets split it and gather a car & engine collection !
Did you ever call Mike?
Not yet, either later today or Monday. Working on the sprint car for tomorrow's race. Almost don't want to, 102 degrees ! eek !
Although the $k 514 with 625 HP and the low torque sound great, I don't think I'll do it. The car is set up for a FE, including the motor mounts,
brand new steel bellhousing, flywheel and clutch. I don't know how long the block is compared to the FE, but even the shifter hole in the tunnel
may be different. I'd have to check with other Lone Star Cobra owners if anyone has the 514 . It may also be too high for the hood to close ?
Plus, it's not a FE.....
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Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Sorry, but IF I hit it that big... it's MINE! ALL MINE!! I ain't sharing with no one!:eek::LOL::LOL:
There will be a Boss9.. a Boss02.. a couple SOHC's oh - and a FE Tunnel Port.. and then I'll get a ......................................................:HMMM::D:3dSMILE:
What do you guys think of this 427 center oiler, for it's parts and price ?
(Although, I'm leaning towards a new Pond, Geneses or Bear Block Motors new block)
The 427 is a C5AE - Solid lifter, Cross Bolt block, Std. bore, TRW forged pistons, Lemans cap screw rods, Lemans steel crankshaft. Block is in excellent condition. Ready to assemble. Asking $3500 OBO
I'm located in Houston, Tx. Pictures and more details available upon request.
Thank you,
Curtis
link to previous ad with pictures:
http://www.clubcobra.com/classifieds...p?product=5460
I can't tell ?
I'll see if he'll find out.