Looking for a Ohio title for a 30-31 Ford tudor sedan. Thanks,Bill
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Looking for a Ohio title for a 30-31 Ford tudor sedan. Thanks,Bill
Most large shows have a few guys selling titles and license plates. Not sure about how Ohio does it, but I bought one from Nebraska for my '27, and had it converted into a Florida title. It was sort of like I bought the car in Nebraska and took it back home. (sort of, except the car was absent from the equation :3dSMILE: )
Some will say not to do it this way, and I am not advocating that, but it isn't like you are dealing with a 2007 automobile here, and it is done every day. (just not in California :eek: :eek: )
Don
yeah here in cali hot rod mags were selling vins.... and they got caught cause the dmv realized that the same vin was registered to 30+ cars... my neighbor happened to be one of em.... they didn't fine him though
Yeah Ohio is a pain in the back side if you don't have a title. They don't accept "bills of sale" from a lot of states either. If I get one from out of state the car and title have to be inspected to verify matching VINs.:( So its just easier if I can come up with an Ohio one.
Thanks,Bill
You can apply for a "lost title". All you have to do is have the person that you bought it from sign an affadavit (notorized bill of sale) that they sold you the car and include the price. You fill out a few forms and submit the forms and affadivit to the BMV. It goes in front of a board and is reviewed for approval or denial. On a 1930's car, I think you'd have a pretty damn good chance of approval. It's not hard to believe that the title may have been lost over a 70 year span.
These are taken directly from the BMV website (frequently asked questions): http://bmv.ohio.gov/title/title_faq.htm
Q12:
I purchased a vehicle in-state or out-of-state and the seller did not provide me with a title. I have a bill of sale. What do I do?
A12:
Contact the title division by letter. Compose a sworn notarized statement as to the facts pertaining to the purchase of the vehicle. Next, obtain a completed Out of State Inspection form. Make a copy of all papers that you have on the vehicle from the seller and mail to the Ohio BMV, Title Division, P.O. Box 16520, Columbus, Ohio 43216-6520. The inquiry will be reviewed by the Title Section and if approved, a letter of authorization will be issued.
Q31.
I purchased my vehicle from an in-state or out-of-state resident and do not have a title. I submitted my evidence to the BMV and still could not get a a title. What else can I do?
A31.
If the registrar finds the evidence insufficient, you may petition the court of common pleas for a court order ordering the clerk to issue a certificate of title.
Most times I have dealt with Ohio BMV they have been very accomodating. I even convinced them to issue me two 30-day tags for an out of state vehicle without an inspection or title. Those people that work there have to deal with a lot of crap. You'd be suprised how far a smile, a good attitude, and a little small talk will get you.
Hope this helps.... it's definitely cheaper than what they are charging for old titles these days. Just requires a little work. And it will protect your ass legally.
that ussually works out but they also send a letter to the last person who had the title to find out the status on the car... and if it happens to be that the person wants the car back they get it because they possess the title... had it happen on a few cars.... only one guy responded and he wanted $100 for the title.... we'd already put in about $5000 of work so we gave him the $100
i'm sure ohio does something similar its all part of CYA
......which is why you get a signed bill of sale before you submit the paperwork. Takes the "I never sold it" factor out of there.
If you are that concerned..... who's to say that your best buddy didn't sell you the car? Maybe that was the case.... catch my drift? All it takes is a signed bill of sale and the paperwork.
Most Model As never even came with a VIN tag. They just had a number stamped on the bottom side of the middle subrail if I remember correctly. What BMV employee is going to crawl under your car looking for that number? There's a snow ball's chance in hell of them tracing that number.
There is another way to do it.... just apply for a "home built" title. You just have to submit copies of your build receipts and the proper paperwork and you get a title. It says "home built" on the title, but who cares? All you need it for is to register it.
Point is that there are better ways to go about the process than searching down a title paying $300+ for a sheet of paper, forging a number tag, and hoping the BMV doesn't impound your ride. If you do it the right way, you save yourself the $300+ and know that your getting it done.
Ohio must have gotten tougher on titling over the past 10 years. My car was an Ohio car, but Ohio DMV never verified the serial number of the previous title to the car :eek: . As such, when I tried to title in PA, PA rejected the Ohio title and then things got ugly :CRY: before they got better. Months later, PA issued a new title and a new VIN plate. Learned a good lesson on out of state titles. Won't make that mistake twice. :D
There are ads in Street Rodder, Street Scene, Goodguys etc for titles. May even find one in a local classified. Just make sure your numbers match.