i am looking for:
fox mustang 460 oil pan.
fox C6 cross member.
fox 460 engine mounts.
fox 460 headers.
DOVE heads and aluminium 4 bbl intake for a 460.
two 15 inch 4 lug wheels,that are 8 or 9 inches wide.
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i am looking for:
fox mustang 460 oil pan.
fox C6 cross member.
fox 460 engine mounts.
fox 460 headers.
DOVE heads and aluminium 4 bbl intake for a 460.
two 15 inch 4 lug wheels,that are 8 or 9 inches wide.
If you can, use one of the tubular crossmember kits. It not only frees up some weight, but gives you so much more header clearance, too. We did one on our Capri that I was building as a 460 car, and they are terrific.
Just thought I'd pass that along for what it is worth.
Don
cool Thanks! do you remember what mount you used? and do you have to use an aftermarket cross member? i would like to use the stock one if possible, i am trying to build this car as cheap as possible. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
I think it is a D and D Motorsports or something like that. They had a booth at the NMRA Ford National a few years ago, and we bought it there. I think about $ 250.00, but well worth it, especially when you lift the stock one then lift this one. It bolted on just like stock, and the one we bought has spring pockets to use stock type coil springs, but you can also get it without pockets to use coil over springs.
I eventually sold the Capri back to my one Son (He has owned it e 3 times and I have owned it twice........we keep selling it to each other. He owns it now) We had a hard time trying to get the drag springs in place, so he scrapped that plan and bought coil overs and tubular A arms. It looks really trick, and is way lighter. The real benefit is the extra room it gives you down below for 460 headers.
As for building it on the cheap.........the words 460 Fox and cheap don't fit in the same sentence. I had a ton of money in just the parts I bought to do the swap, not to mention the fortune I have in the 466 motor now sitting idle on an engine stand. I sold off all the Fox swap stuff, because my Son is going the 347 or similar small block route. But. it is cheap to do in the respect that you can get such brutal horsepower out of a mild or sort of mild 460 that it would take alot more to get a 5.0 to produce similar performance.
However, if you shop wisely (I bought JetHot Coated Hooker Super Headers for $ 250.00, new at a swap meet) and take your time, you can save some money. And 460's look like they belong in that engine bay.:3dSMILE: :3dSMILE: :3dSMILE: :3dSMILE:
Good luck,
Don
cool, how about master cylinder clearance? any issues ther i will have to deal with? i really appreciate the advice!!
Yep, buy one of the kits made of a block of aluminum to get rid of the brake booster, then a simple manual master cylinder mounts to that. It eliminates the valve cover to master cylinder clearance problem, and moves it slightly to the left.
I will be at the shop tomorrow PM after work, and will shoot you some pictures of the Capri engine bay. You will be able to see how much room you gain with the tube crossmember and the master cylinder kit. I'll post tomorrow night for you.
It is kind of like putting 10 lbs of something in a 5 lb bag, but it makes an awesome swap. Yeah, it is a little nose heavy, and all that, but the kick in the middle of your back when you stomp it kind of makes up for all that. Oh, you will probably need a 3 inch hood to clear the intake, too.
Don
If you like 460's, go to http://www.460ford.com/
There, after 30 trys I got it to paste right.
Oh, and you need to take a sledgehammer and bang in the top of the trans tunnel a little to get the C6 to clear the floor. Nothing drastic, just a couple of places interfer.
AWESOME! thank you!! i will check tommarow for the pics! Thanks again!
Hey Thunder, I stopped after work tonight and shot you a few pix of the Capri that I set up originally to hold the 460. You don't need all of the stuff shown in the pictures, but it sure makes getting it in there a whole lot easier, especially with headers and all.
The first picture shows the adapter I mentioned that gets rid of your power brake booster, and converts it to manual brakes. If you buy one, get the kit that includes the pushrod. Some don't have it, and you have to modify yours.
Some of the pictures show the D and D crossmember. Compare this picture to your stock crossmember, and you will see how much clearance you pickup in the pan and header area.
Other shots are of the coil overs my Son added. I originally set it up for Moroso coil springs, but he bought taller springs, and we had fits trying to get them in, so he finally just went to coil overs. I have to admit, they look trick, and will probably transfer weight better. The car will see limited street use, so these should work ok.
One shot shows the tubular lower a arms he added at the same time. He has more money than me, what can I say?
Hope these give you some idea of what you can do. By the way, also be sure to buy one of the Battle Box kits to reinforce your lower control arm torque boxes, as these can get torn out real quick with sticky tires and some decent horsepower. Also, add subframe connectors. After we added ours, you can now jack up one corner and the whole car lifts up, no more flex in the chassis.
If you have any more questions, just yell.
Don
You can only post 5 pictures so here is the final one. I shows pretty well how much room you have compared to stock.
Don
PS: We also are running a manual steering rack, similar to a Flaming River. We thought we would work on our biceps while we were at it. lol
wow thank you VERY MUCH! these pics will help out a ton, i am going to print them off and put them in a folder so i dont loose them. i see what you mean about the extra clearance with the tubular set up, ther really is a lot more room. i will have to see what kind of funds i will have to work with. i am trying to locate as many of the parts used as i can. you or anyone you know wouldnt happen to have any used 460 swap parts you would want to sell would you?
THANK YOU!:D
I sold off all of mine when I sold the car back to my Son, because he is going the small block route. But if you keep watching Ebay with key words like 460 fox, etc, this stuff shows up pretty often.
We guys who build Fords usually pay more for stuff than our Chevy brothers, and big blocks are even more expensive than that. But I think dollar for dollar it is hard to beat the performance you can get by dropping one of these in some lighter body.
I have a Total Performance T Bucket body and frame that I am saving for the 460 engine I have left over from this project. I was shooting for the 10 second bracket with the Capri, so the engine should run pretty good in the lighter bucket. But that project is behind 2 or 3 others I have to finish first, so it will be a while.
If you have patience, and look for some deals, you can save some money on the parts you are looking for. You might want to take pictures as you go, and post them, for others thinking of doing the same swap.
I'm glad the pictures I posted for you helped/ Good luck.
Don
PS, just looked on Ebay, there are a set of swap engine mounts on there right now. Long time to go on the auction, but they are only at $ 20 so far. The item number is Item number: 8069819158
wow thanks again! i am watching the mounts now, i looked at the sellers other items and he has the pan i need too, i might be able to get this stuff that would be nice, i hope a set of headers becomes available too :D
i was not sure if you were still looking for parts to do a swap or not but we are getting rid of everything from front to back if you are still needing anything . thanks larry
The auto cross boys used to slot the holes and move the front x member foreward to get more weight to the rear
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