Wow, tubing is hi in CA. !!!! I got some 1" DOM for less. Allready did my time in shops, but thanks for the offer. Not meaning to put you down, just thought your prices a bit high. And yes, I do know it's much cheaper to buy in lengths, I get all my materials that way, usually split an order with a few other shops and get a better price break. So anyway, no reason to get all self-righteous with me, been there, done that. Also, sorry that I am able to buy materials at what is obviously a much better price than you do. The reason I said 50 an hour, is that after the initial set-up, with two machines and one operator after the material is cut to rough length, actual production time per peice would allow production at that high of a rate. Sorry I ruined your day, and I certainly didn't mean to insult your abilities. Nothing more than a commentary on the way I see the situation, you obviously disagree and that is your right. Oh yeah, the only other thing I would mention is that this is a CLUB, if you are going to advertise a business or service here, you should pay for the ad like the other advertisers do. And finally, I ain't yer buddy.